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    JOEL B. POLLAK
    16 Mar 2018


    The next battle between the State of California and the Trump administration — after clashes over the environment, “sanctuary” laws, and the border wall, to name a few — will be over water

    The Trump administration is embracing a proposal to raise the height of the Shasta Dam in Northern California, the Los Angeles Times notes, to provide additional water storage to the thirsty Golden State.

    But California’s government is trying to stop the project, thanks largely to the influence of environmental groups that have staunchly opposed the construction or expansion of dams in recent decades. A local Native American tribe, the Winnemem Wintu, also opposes raising the dam.

    The dam was first [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] during the latter years of the Great Depression, and was completed in 1945.

    The state’s farming interests are intensely interested in the project. The Westlands Water District, which represents farmers in the relatively dry western portion of the agricultural Central Valley, is hoping that new water from the Shasta Dam will replace water that has been lost to state restrictions and to a federal judicial mandate that flushes water out to sea to protect the endangered San Joaquin Delta smelt.

    As the Times notes, a former lobbyist for Westlands, David Bernhardt, is now Deputy Secretary of the Interior. And Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), who represents part of the southern Central Valley, is in a position to bring farmers’ concerns to the fore.

    California Republicans were pushing for the Shasta Dam to be raised even under the Obama administration.

    In an interview in 2014, Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA) [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] that the federal and state governments were both opposed to increasing water storage in California. “We are being governed by people who are out of their minds,” he said.

    McClintock suggested raising the height of the Shasta Dam from the current 600 feet to 800 feet, as originally designed. That, he said, would add nine million acre-feet to its existing storage capacity–double its present volume.

    The dam is located on federal land. But state law prohibits raising it. The federal government is pushing ahead with the project, regardless.

    That means the clash will ultimately come down to the Constitution — and the courts.




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    Scale.

    The Shasta dam stores approximately 9 million acre feet of water. That's approximately enough to cover the states of New Jersey and Massachusetts with one foot of water. Doubling its capacity to 18 million acre feet of water is approximately enough to cover the state of South Carolina with one foot of water.
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    To heck with the dam and additional water. Our "elected leaders" need that hi-speed speed choo-choo for "Moonbeam" Brown.
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    Popeye,
    The question is should they do it? I know the central valley grows most of the produce for the country and are always short of water. What would you think about the project. Personally I would do it just to piss off the Libs down there. Its Federal land and the state could, and maybe should be told to piss off.
    But thank god I don't live in that state, I like northern California, but they can keep southern and the coast.
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    Not only should it be done, it needs to be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    Not only should it be done, it needs to be done.
    In that case given that it's CA, it probably won't be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    Not only should it be done, it needs to be done.
    It probably feeds the Gallo Napa Valley wineries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wittmeba View Post
    It probably feeds the Gallo Napa Valley wineries.
    It feeds the entire state.

    The Shasta dam stores approximately 9 million acre feet of water. That's approximately enough to cover the states of New Jersey and Massachusetts with one foot of water. Doubling its capacity to 18 million acre feet of water is approximately enough to cover the state of South Carolina with one foot of water.
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