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    Quote Originally Posted by bobgeorge View Post
    I'm sure it has to do with flying Air Force One....and security details with hundreds of people. When Trump quotes a $$ figure do you always get a detailed report?

    Also, that 3M per trip is not even counting the estimated $300K per day for Melania to stay in NYC. Security is not cheap.
    And I'm sure the figures have been massaged in some way to make Trump look bad and the O-Hole look good. Until the means used to arrive at the figures in the headlines are published, I'll continue to disbelieve their story.

    The elites are out to 'get' Trump. They've proved they will stoop to levels heretofore unknown to do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by therewolf View Post
    Well why don't you do a little research, and try to prove me wrong, there, bob-o? Then you can

    attempt to mealy-mouth yout way out of deals like Sholindra, and maybe you can blather some magic

    liberal felicitations which will bring back the lives of the border guards and Mexicans, Obama and Holder

    got killed in the fast and furious fiasco?

    I'll guarantee you this much: Trump, a man who is taking 1$ a year personal salary, won't be frittering away

    $105,000 on any part-time pet wranglers.
    I'm not sure what you mean by Sholindra?

    Fast and Furious? It was program that went bad. It happens. A special forces troop died and two were injured during the raid Trump OKed...it happens.

    Also...I just googled the $105K pet wranglers story and the pet plane ride. Neither are true.

    I don't understand the benefit in believing in or spreading stories that are not true.

    We live in a world today where real facts don't see to matter and alternate facts do....which to be honest is very scary to the avg American.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobgeorge View Post
    I will take your word that what you are saying is true....but do you think Trump's household budget is any cheaper?

    Also...Israel gets more aid than any other country. To make significant cuts we should cut their aid.
    So your saying basicly from your last few posts that we should support IRAN the country that wants to murder and nuke us and a large supporter of terrorism, But we should **** over israel a country with values that arent basicly "kill everyone whos not a muslim" Because that is exactly what you are suggesting, Iran has said flat out if they get nukes israel is going to be glass and that they want to destroy the u.s, israel HAS nukes and has said leave us the hell alone and we will never use them.

    Frankly a case could be made we spend too much on overseas aid and most here wouldnt disagree but israel is not one we should be cutting aid to, Frankly i counter your "we should cut funding to israel" with we shouldnt be bailing out companys that BLOW our tax money and come back BEGGING for more, or on boondoggles like the F35 or those patrol boats that are worthless, Or how about those "green energy" companys obama used our money on that went belly up and contributed exactly two rancid wet farts from a month old dead horse to our economy and energy needs?

    As for the obama vs trump bullcrap, Frankly popeye sumed it up, Show us REAL numbers that arent pulled from some democrats ass and then lets get obamas numbers and compare them line for line, if LINE FOR LINE cost for cost trump is actully spending like a mad man yea i would be a little peeved, But keep in mind obama spent like a mad man and democrats loved it and defended it, Why cant we do the same for trump especally as he has only been in TWO MONTHS and is putting out fires left and right over two partys with sticks so far up there asses that you can see it when they talk.

    Frankly the MSM has lied about, made up, or spun so much about trump that has turned out to be lies mis direction or flat out bullshit that i would have a hard time trusting them if they said water is wet and the sky is blue, I would be VERY suprised if these numbers didnt have a few extra zeros and that obamas costs werent swept under several rug FACTORYS.
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    There's a huge swamp in Washington, D.C., and a lot of smaller ones scattered across our country that President Trump is draining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    The elites are out to 'get' Trump'. They've proved they will stoop to levels heretofore unknown to do this.
    You don't believe Trump is an elite? Trump was born rich....has only associated with rich people......all his hotels and golf courses are basically only for rich people. Most of the people in his cabinet are generals or billionaires. You think they care about making laws, etc that benefit the middle class or poor? All the laws they pass will benefit big businesses and rich people. Businesses might be able to hire more people, but pay them chump change.

    Trumps promised a middle class tax cut....but I haven't heard it mentioned lately......but I'm sure they are working on it.
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    I say again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    And I'm sure the figures have been massaged in some way to make Trump look bad and the O-Hole look good. Until the means used to arrive at the figures in the headlines are published, I'll continue to disbelieve their story.

    The elites are out to 'get' Trump. They've proved they will stoop to levels heretofore unknown to do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctic View Post
    So your saying basicly from your last few posts that we should support IRAN the country that wants to murder and nuke us and a large supporter of terrorism, But we should **** over israel a country with values that arent basicly "kill everyone whos not a muslim" Because that is exactly what you are suggesting, Iran has said flat out if they get nukes israel is going to be glass and that they want to destroy the u.s, israel HAS nukes and has said leave us the hell alone and we will never use them.

    Frankly a case could be made we spend too much on overseas aid and most here wouldnt disagree but israel is not one we should be cutting aid to, Frankly i counter your "we should cut funding to israel" with we shouldnt be bailing out companys that BLOW our tax money and come back BEGGING for more, or on boondoggles like the F35 or those patrol boats that are worthless, Or how about those "green energy" companys obama used our money on that went belly up and contributed exactly two rancid wet farts from a month old dead horse to our economy and energy needs?

    As for the obama vs trump bullcrap, Frankly popeye sumed it up, Show us REAL numbers that arent pulled from some democrats ass and then lets get obamas numbers and compare them line for line, if LINE FOR LINE cost for cost trump is actully spending like a mad man yea i would be a little peeved, But keep in mind obama spent like a mad man and democrats loved it and defended it, Why cant we do the same for trump especally as he has only been in TWO MONTHS and is putting out fires left and right over two partys with sticks so far up there asses that you can see it when they talk.

    Frankly the MSM has lied about, made up, or spun so much about trump that has turned out to be lies mis direction or flat out bullshit that i would have a hard time trusting them if they said water is wet and the sky is blue, I would be VERY suprised if these numbers didnt have a few extra zeros and that obamas costs werent swept under several rug FACTORYS.
    I never said support Iran, but I did say that foreign aid is a very small part of the federal government so cutting it at the edges doesn't save much. Unless you cut from top received, Israel, then you really aren't going to save anything significant.

    The article I posted came from Forbes. I am not sure who MSM is.

    The F35 and patrol boats probably do cost too much $$$. But the ugly truth about a lot of government programs and boodales that waste a lot of $$$ is that congressmen and senators love them and talk from both sides of the deck on the issues. I will give you an example. To be honest I don't know where F35s are made but my guess it is multiple locations. So lets say Trump said or even DoD says we don't need 500 planes....we only need 300. Say they are made in KY...the senator/congressman will complain about the cost, etc.....until they want to shut down the factory and lay people off that work on the F35 in their district or state. Then they are for keeping the F35 because they don't want the jobs to leave their district or state. Congressman are always for cuts in someone else's state or district, but not their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobgeorge View Post
    You don't believe Trump is an elite? Trump was born rich....has only associated with rich people......all his hotels and golf courses are basically only for rich people. Most of the people in his cabinet are generals or billionaires. You think they care about making laws, etc that benefit the middle class or poor? All the laws they pass will benefit big businesses and rich people. Businesses might be able to hire more people, but pay them chump change.

    Trumps promised a middle class tax cut....but I haven't heard it mentioned lately......but I'm sure they are working on it.
    So you expect him to waltz in and have everything ready to go right off the bat? It takes time to figure our what cuts can be made how much they save and how much of a tax break you can pass on to the middle class, trumps not stupid hes not going to waltz in hardly knowing up from down in the budget and say "ok 25% tax breaks for XYZ" he is going to sit down and actully do budgets and figure out what he can do realisticly first.

    As for trump yes he is an elite, But he also is a patriot from what i can tell, Yes everything he does will in the end help big companys more then us, yes in the end they look out for them selves, The thing your missing is there are two roads to this, The one the democrats want which is basicly everyone is poor everyone has everything taken and distributed to everyone else save.for the super rich who have special loophole and when the money runs out and the system implodes they skip to the next country and start over, Then theres trumps way which is get said companys back to the u.s, via tax breaks and realistic emmisions laws, which in turn gets them giving jobs to the little people so there are more people with an income who can then buy more stuff and more people paying taxes to repair and upgrade infrastructure, Which then makes more money here at home via cheapwr infrastructre and more people with money, which encourages said elite to expand adding more jobs and spreading more wealth around via more skilled and unskilled jobs in the pool, letting them pull in more profit which in turn repeats the cycle and contributes to a healthy economy.

    Given a choice the latter is the way i would prefer to go.

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    It is a fascinating history to me.
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    Finally, after years of lobbying efforts, the federal government acquired Mar-a-Lago by an act of Congress in October 1972.
    When Post died the following year, she believed Mar-a-Lago had realized its ultimate destiny.
    But the estate’s preservation and upkeep expenses proved more than the National Park Service’s budget could sustain. Mar-a-Lago was returned to the Post Foundation in 1980.

    Five years later, 40-year-old New York real estate developer Trump paid a recorded $5 million for Mar-a-Lago, then considered something of a white elephant, and reportedly bought the furnishings for another $3 million.
    (He later acquired the beach parcel for a reported $2 million.) He and the first of his three wives, Ivana, renovated the house, restoring many rooms to look as if Post still lived there.
    “I thought I was buying a museum,” Trump told Palm Beach Life in 1986. “I never thought it was going to be a particularly comfortable place, but I thought it was so incredible as a statement that it would be wonderful to own. The fact is, it has turned out not only to be a museum but a very comfortable home.”
    By 1995, Trump had won the town’s approval to open his private club. He has continued to maintain private quarters there, which he uses on visits with first lady Melania and their son, 10-year-old Barron. His adult children also visit frequently.

    Bush senior liked his ranch in TX

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    Maybe our current POTUS will use it in the summer?
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    The bottom line. ...

    Trump has not taken any vacations. Done nothing special. He is living the way he lived before he became President. He owns Mar-A-Lago.

    On the other 'hand'..... Obama took advantage of all the possible perks he possibly could as President. All kinds of vacations to Hawaii, all over the world. Including 13 Aides for Michelle. Daughters somehow worth millions. He worth over a Hundred Million. Where did all this money come from?


    From what all I can gather superficially. Trump is living more conservative than he did before becoming President. He sure did keep Trump1 flying all over the world all the time.
    It's nobody's business how much his Mar-A-Lago weekends cost taxpayers. It's how he lived before becoming President.
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