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    Ok, I disliked Obama a great deal, and believe he was extremely corrupt, but the president needs to watch his damn mouth and learn some basic decorum. This is extremely damaging to the cause.

    I along with millions of other people who voted for him voted for him to govern, and affect real change, not this stupid childish bullshit. I blame the media, but the president apparently has diarrhea of the mouth and needs to learn that you don't make empty accusations without solid hard proof, and even then, if it is about a former president, it's just not right for a sitting president to put that out. This is very distracting and make no mistake extremely damaging to our republic. Reagan would not have acted like this, this whole thing is ridiculous petty bullshit and middle school level, except it's very serious. Clearly the president's worst enemy is himself, not sure if he has some kind of legit problem where he can't keep his mouth shut, or if he's just some kind of crazy. I voted for him to govern, and I'm sick of this stupid ass bullshit always on the news every couple of days. Where is the news about the state of the union proposals? I didn't think so..because we're always having to listen to this shit. I think most of it is Fake News perpetuated by the media, but that said the tweets are coming from the president himself, and he needs to put the damn phone down.
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    In the election, Trump was viewed as the lesser of the two evil ego's. A bit or even significantly less dishonest than Hillary, but an ego possessed of dishonesty, nevertheless. The medicine to fight off Hillary is unpleasant also. It had to be. The sweetness and honesty of McCain and Romney wasn't the cure.

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    He was indeed the lesser of two evils. And many a conservative held their nose and voted for him knowing full well who he was. But, thank God we got him. Whatever is going on it is nothing, NOTHING compared to what Ms. Clinton had in store for us. We dodged a double bladed hollow point of a dumdum bullet in this last election.

    I wish he'd put the phone down too. Maybe he just slung that out there to get the DemocRats to start scurrying around covering their tracks. Barack is probably thinking, "How did he know?"

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    I along with millions of other people who voted for him voted for him to govern, and affect real change, not this stupid childish bullshit. I blame the media, but the president apparently has diarrhea of the mouth and needs to learn that you don't make empty accusations without solid hard proof,
    What makes you think he doesn't have proof?

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    I just know I'm sick of hearing this stupid childish shit every two days. Where is the policy news? I like the president's proposals to secure our border and rebuild our infrastructure but all we hear is this shit constantly and part of it is himself because he can't keep his damn mouth shut apparently. Obama was a weakling and a joke, but he's finished. Mr. Trump is president now. It's time for him to lead. I hate the liberal media but the president constantly gives them ammo by constantly referring to them. Want to know CNN's worst nightmare?? If suddenly the president started IGNORING them completely and not even validating their blatant liberal bias. But by constantly mentioning them and stupid shit like accusing Obama of wiretapping, you feed the destructive cycle that we're on. And make no mistake, this is extremely destructive. Mr. Trump is on his way to being another Nixon. Without the positive policy achievements. Look, I'm as pissed at the media as anyone else, and these stupid stories, but the president needs to put the damn phone down, get off twitter and act like an adult, like, say, Reagan. I think people are sick of this bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobgeorge View Post
    Since Trump brought up the issue......then Trump should the the one to offer proof that he happened.
    Well, actually and factually, it was the NY Times who first stated Trump Towers had been tapped. They had an article in their paper....."before the inauguration"!

    This means that someone had leaked to the NYT that Trump was wire tapped; before he was president. Remember? They said they had info about who talked to the Russians but they could not say it was influential to the election?

    People need to follow the facts. This started under OBAMA and the wire tap took place under OBAMA and the news media new about this WHILE OBAMA was president.

    Now please tell me why Trump needs to offer proof? I think the OBAMA administration has some explaining to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggidy View Post
    Well, actually and factually, it was the NY Times who first stated Trump Towers had been tapped. They had an article in their paper....."before the inauguration"!

    This means that someone had leaked to the NYT that Trump was wire tapped; before he was president. Remember? They said they had info about who talked to the Russians but they could not say it was influential to the election?

    People need to follow the facts. This started under OBAMA and the wire tap took place under OBAMA and the news media new about this WHILE OBAMA was president.

    Now please tell me why Trump needs to offer proof? I think the OBAMA administration has some explaining to do.
    Brietbart and Rush Limbaugh saying it doesn't make it true. General Clapper and James Comey said it didn't happen.

    You can't read the article. If it is referring to wiretapping General Flynn, he was caught because the U.S. was listening to the Russians.

    I say let Congress do an investigation and see what they find. While they are at it they can also investigate:

    - Illegal voting of the 3-5 million illegals
    - Whether Ted Cruz's father helped with the assassin of Kennedy
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    "I think the OBAMA administration has some explaining to do."

    Obama and his crew never lied, cheated, smeared others or were found to be at fault for any of the scandals they created. Not a smidgen of fault. What's to explain? What are the odds of that happening? As Hillary was fond of saying almost daily, "It's time to put that/this behind "us" (me) and move on/forward". And as you can clearly see, they all have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobgeorge View Post
    Brietbart and Rush Limbaugh saying it doesn't make it true. General Clapper and James Comey said it didn't happen.

    You can't read the article. If it is referring to wiretapping General Flynn, he was caught because the U.S. was listening to the Russians.

    I say let Congress do an investigation and see what they find. While they are at it they can also investigate:

    - Illegal voting of the 3-5 million illegals
    - Whether Ted Cruz's father helped with the assassin of Kennedy
    I never meant to imply it may be real; only state that Trump did not start this rumor.

    I agree, let an investigation happen....at the cost of millions. We already know how the FBI and other agencies support the truth!

    And you believe they heard Flynn while listening to the Russians? Not that that is not how it started, but I gotta tell ya, Hussein and his clan have a very bad track record of telling the truth.

    I doubt we will really ever know. Although I agree an investigation might be right, I really do not believe it will tell us anything. It's a witch hunt. It's flinging poop all over hoping something will stick. It is claiming the Russians did it all but so far they have no proof of anything. Nada, nothing.....and I truly believe that if the democrats had even a sliver of anything, they would be a done deal.

    As of right now, it is nothing more than a pissing contest. They lost, they are angry and they are stirring up their base......and the weak so called republicans are once again sitting in the corner sucking their thumbs.

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    In football they call what Trump did a misdirection play....when all eyes are on you......say anything to get people to look somewhere else.

    Both sides need to move beyond conspiracy theories and work on getting something done that helps the American people.

    Instead Jeff Sessions has taken us almost back in the Clinton days of the meaning of 'is'.......Why couldn't he just say he met with the Russians as part of his duties as Senator....that would have been to easy. He just said 'no' when asked the question...now he is trying to talk about the meaning of blah, blah, blah.
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