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    Maybe they just don't know what the problem is. You fix that by replacing everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yosemite Sam View Post
    Maybe they just don't know what the problem is. You fix that by replacing everything.


    LOL true! I wouldn't mind if they jacked up the roof rack and drove a new car under it.

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    Got my car back yesterday! Engine wasn't supposed to even come in until Monday but i think they give you a later date in case they run into problems and if not you're happy it's done early. Talked ot the head service tech who i sort of know a little. I guess the knock sensors on these cars not only listen for pre ignition but also any and all odd noises and vibration inside the engine. The wiring harness problem is the first step. The old ones were routed in such a way that just the harness alone vibrating would kick the sensor so they replace it with a longer one routed a different way. When it does it again then they know something in the engine isnt right and they replace it. So now the warranty is reset on the long block and they added an extra 20k of mileage which is cool too but I'll still hit the 10 years before i hit the mileage anyway. Of course not super happy dealing with this on a car that is just over a year old but real happy with the service they have been giving to fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by square target2 View Post
    Of course not super happy dealing with this on a car that is just over a year old but real happy with the service they have been giving to fix it.
    Don't let it bother you, just be glad they made it right. Can you imagine how you would have been screwed over if it was a GM or Chrysler vehicle?

    My Toyota pickup had a recall on the frame. Apparently the third-party supplier skimped on the type of steel to use in building the frame. Toyota basically told their supplier and the third-party supplier how the problem was to be fixed. They offered to buy back any pickup with a rusted out frame. Toyota paid 50% of the excellent retail value of the vehicle, their supplier paid 50% of the value and the third-party supplier paid 50% of the value. Yep, they paid the consumer 150% of the excellent retail value for their truck. People were buying up used Toyotas for a couple of thousand dollars and turning them in and getting paid tens of thousands. My truck was supposedly affected, but the frame on mine is solid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Scientist View Post
    Don't let it bother you, just be glad they made it right. Can you imagine how you would have been screwed over if it was a GM or Chrysler vehicle?

    My Toyota pickup had a recall on the frame. Apparently the third-party supplier skimped on the type of steel to use in building the frame. Toyota basically told their supplier and the third-party supplier how the problem was to be fixed. They offered to buy back any pickup with a rusted out frame. Toyota paid 50% of the excellent retail value of the vehicle, their supplier paid 50% of the value and the third-party supplier paid 50% of the value. Yep, they paid the consumer 150% of the excellent retail value for their truck. People were buying up used Toyotas for a couple of thousand dollars and turning them in and getting paid tens of thousands. My truck was supposedly affected, but the frame on mine is solid.


    I met a friend of a friend who was the guy at our local Toyota who was the one who changed the frames on many trucks. This was several years ago and he was telling me the process of changing them out and i wan to say he could do two or three a week. if you opted for that you also got more than a new frame. You got all new brakes lines, fuel lines, some suspension parts, new body mounts and a few other things that attach to the frame. Some of that stuff like the lines are nearly impossible to remove and put on another vehicle without breaking stuff and the other stuff was just cheaper to replace than trying to switch out and have to replace a certain amount anyway.

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