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    Default Fort Worth dad stops his son from being the next mass shooter.

    Now this is how it is supposed to work.
    No new gun laws needed, just people who care enough to get the mentally ill off the streets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KILTED COWBOY View Post
    No new gun laws needed, just people who care enough to get the mentally ill off the streets.
    Getting these people off the streets is easy, but what to do with them after that? We use to have mental hospitals where mentally ill "patients" were locked up and kept away from society. But most of those hospitals closed up in the 60s and 70s, due to lack of funding. Those that are left are mostly at capacity and have the no vacancy sign out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Scientist View Post
    Getting these people off the streets is easy, but what to do with them after that? We use to have mental hospitals where mentally ill "patients" were locked up and kept away from society. But most of those hospitals closed up in the 60s and 70s, due to lack of funding. Those that are left are mostly at capacity and have the no vacancy sign out.
    After we finish building the wall. Build more institutions.
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    Yes that will stop some mass shooters and kudos to the father for doing something. How many don't reveal their intentions and just do it though? Bring back the nut houses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KILTED COWBOY View Post
    Now this is how it is supposed to work.
    No new gun laws needed, just people who care enough to get the mentally ill off the streets.

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    sorry to say this your comment is stereotyping. your saying that all mentally ill are raving maniacs and murders waiting to happen. That is NOT at all helping this situation.
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    Now this is how its suppose to work. No new gun law needed, lets get the people who demonstrate a willingness to harm others and self off the street.

    This more accurately reflects the people who we do not want wandering around, without harming and entire class of innocent people. NON violent mentally ill people which is the vast majority of people who are dealing with mental health issues.

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    We been there done that and it was a humans rights nightmare, where countless people who were not violent at all, were stripped of all of their constitutional rights, were abused, tortured, Murdered, sterilization, maliciously experimented on, mutilated, and on and on and on. . in the end it led to the T4 program stopped AFTER ww2 was over they kept killing the disabled after they stopped killing jews. . And then there is Eugenics program which is very much still in existence here in the USA.

    So I have to wonder are you proposing we bring back the eugenics program in full?? that is the nut houses your referring too. bring back the butchering and abuse of non violent people with disabilities, who are almost always classed as being mentally ill in order to strip their rights of self determination so they could justify locking them in the so called nut houses? .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimp View Post
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    We been there done that and it was a humans rights nightmare, where countless people who were not violent at all, were stripped of all of their constitutional rights, were abused, tortured, Murdered, sterilization, maliciously experimented on, mutilated, and on and on and on. . in the end it led to the T4 program stopped AFTER ww2 was over they kept killing the disabled after they stopped killing jews. . And then there is Eugenics program which is very much still in existence here in the USA.

    So I have to wonder are you proposing we bring back the eugenics program in full?? that is the nut houses your referring too. bring back the butchering and abuse of non violent people with disabilities, who are almost always classed as being mentally ill in order to strip their rights of self determination so they could justify locking them in the so called nut houses? .


    And now we have a mass homeless problem where unmedicated crazy people wandering the streets. Somewhere in the middle is some happy ground.

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    Well, what about a person who owns 20 guns and 800 rounds of ammo. Does that not indicate that he may hurt someone? I didn't think you'd agree, but what about a non-gun owner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Scientist View Post
    Getting these people off the streets is easy, but what to do with them after that? We use to have mental hospitals where mentally ill "patients" were locked up and kept away from society. But most of those hospitals closed up in the 60s and 70s, due to lack of funding. Those that are left are mostly at capacity and have the no vacancy sign out.
    The state hospital is in a town not too far form me - it looks like something from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. When Michael ripped the roofs off of every building, things got so hairy they delivered food via a helicopter drop. They have sections with more razor wire than a Fed penitentiary

    Florida State Hospital (FSH) is a [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] and [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] in [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. Established in 1876, it was Florida's only state mental institution until 1947. It currently has a capacity of 1,042 patients. The hospital's current Administration Building is on the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ].[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
    The facility's property previously served as a military [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] during the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] and the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], and later became the site of Florida's first state [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. It was subsequently refurbished as a mental hospital, originally known as Florida State Hospital for the Insane, which opened in 1876. It gained notoriety over the course of its long history. It was sued in [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], a case that went to the US Supreme Court, which ruled that the hospital had illegally confined one of its patients. The decision contributed to the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] movement, which resulted in changes to state laws and the closure of many public mental institutions in the country. The hospital today treats patients with severe mental disabilities who have been civilly or forensically committed to the institution.


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    One of the tasks of the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] in the forensic wing is to evaluate an inmate's [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] to be executed, as common law holds that the insane cannot be executed.[Only registered and activated users can see links. ][Only registered and activated users can see links. ] This is a result of [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (1986). A Florida inmate on [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] appealed his case to the United States Supreme Court, declaring he was not competent to be executed. The court ruled that a forensic professional must make that evaluation and, if the inmate is found incompetent, provide treatment to aid in his gaining competency so the execution can take place.[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Providing treatment to an individual to enable that person to become competent to be executed puts mental health professionals in an ethical dilemma.
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