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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    The current situation is nothing more than a construct. A construct invented and built by a criminally greedy advertising agency (a company that makes money by lying) and those who seek (or sought) to gain power for themselves within the organization. It has been siezed upon by those who wish to remove our freedoms and used to weaken the NRA (they hope).

    Action has been taken to right the situation. Those involved in the coup have been removed from positions of power or from the organization. The ad agency has been fired and sued.

    Those jumping on this fetid bandwagon seem to be driven by petty grievances, or those who hope to gain positions of power in an organization in shambles, or those who are financially driven, or are right wing anarchists, or are just plain nonthinking dupes. They should all be ashamed of themselves, their words and their actions. They are the gungrabbers 'useful idiots'.
    I get your points. The problem I have with the NRA is I smell a rat. To date, has anyone actually heard from the horses mouth on the troubles based on rumors, innuendos etc.... I have not.

    When is the leadership in the NRA going to provide the membership with an explanation and courses of action to correct these internal problems?

    I am not abandoning the NRA. I am simply taking a pause and waiting to see what actions are going to be taken. Nothing so far.

    I am ready to to write them a check (and maybe other members, as well), but until I can get some clarity of this mess; Iíll sit and wait.

    Question now, how long will that take the NRA to get their act together and provide clarity and actionable actions to right the ship? Asking Wayne to step aside so the NRA can begin its rebirth is not asking too much. If Wayne feels strongly about the NRA, then heíll resign and turn over the reins to a new breed of NRA leadership. Ollie North might just be the man.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggidy View Post
    Did you leave the USA when Obama was president? Did you lose faith in the USA? Did you turn you back on the USA like you are with the NRA?

    What you are suggesting / encouraging is the true 2nd amendment supporters "leave" because the NRA has a questionable leader in it now? You are certainly sounding like a few celebrities who warned everything that they were gonna leave the USA if Trump won.

    Rather not, you did not do anything when the Obama years were here. We may have tried harder, we came together and hopefully winning against what he started.

    Instead of running away from the NRA, you should be running towards the NRA. They need our help now more than ever.......and what happens? The snowflakes on the right get all huffy and say, "well no more, I'm gonna take my 35 dollars and go somewhere else".........all I can say is adios! In a true battle, colors are usually shown; as they are now.

    I'll worry about my own back.......
    I am taking a pause, until I get answers. I donít think anyone is actually going to leave the NRA. I certainly am not. However, as I have said, I smell a rat.

    Itís not too much to ask for some clarity, answers and actionable actions to right the ship. I am ready to write a check and likely others. However, as a lifetime member, I think I deserve answers. Enough with the accusations, rumors and innuendos. Just an honest explanation and courses of actions to restore the organization and the morale of its membership. If mistakes were made. Admit it, correct it and move on. Fair enough.

    If the NRA leadership cannot figure that out and cannot see that, than WE as members have a much larger problem. Swift, decisive and specific actions will do it for me and likely for other members.

    So far, I have seen ZERO leadership coming out of the NRA and frankly that is too bad. Itís not us, the membership who has let anyone down. Itís the shenanigans which at the moment is just rumors, innuendos and speculation coming out of the NRA. ďLeaders gets results and results come from leadership.Ē So far. Nothing!




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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Scientist View Post
    So far all I've heard is accusations and rumors about Mr. LaPierre and Mr. Cox. Probably started by someone with an axe to grind, or from the left, who wants to harm the NRA
    underrmine from within... soooooo much easier than coming from outside... infiltrate,,, establish a probable cause and let human nature take it's coarse,



    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggidy View Post
    Did you leave the USA when Obama was president? Did you lose faith in the USA?

    Instead of running away from the NRA, you should be running towards the NRA. They need our help now more than ever.......and what happens? The snowflakes on the right get all huffy and say, "well no more, I'm gonna take my 35 dollars and go somewhere else".........all I can say is adios! In a true battle, colors are usually shown; as they are now.

    I'll worry about my own back.......
    agreed..... tighten your belt, give all the support you can or are willing to give and let them work out the problems... hopefully in a timely manner.... and if not... then the membership should get involved and take a stand.... you don't give up support of a sick family member... you hold firm until all reliable efforts are used
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeandSugar View Post
    I have taken the position not to provide any ďcontributionsĒ to the NRA until there is a full accounting and explanation of the shenanigans and Wayne L. has step down. The NRA needs new leadership IMHO.

    I feel the membership deserves answers sooner, rather than later. IMHO, it is fair to say Wayne L. has worn-out his welcome.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Ryan View Post
    Nancy? Nancy Pelosi? Is that you or is it Chuck trolling the gun boards again? LOL
    Nope. This is not the only article that has raised concerns about what is happening within the NRA.

    It is just another red flag on top of other concerns expressed by others which includes NRA Board members.

    I have not heard anything definitive from the NRA on this entire mess. If Wayne is not the problem, than why not come out and explain this to the membership?

    Look. This dilemma is not insurmountable and we can get on if the NRA steps up and provides an explanation. The ball is on their court.

    Lastly, why all the silence? What is the NRA waiting for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggidy View Post
    Did you leave the USA when Obama was president? Did you lose faith in the USA? Did you turn you back on the USA like you are with the NRA?

    What you are suggesting / encouraging is the true 2nd amendment supporters "leave" because the NRA has a questionable leader in it now? You are certainly sounding like a few celebrities who warned everything that they were gonna leave the USA if Trump won.

    Rather not, you did not do anything when the Obama years were here. We may have tried harder, we came together and hopefully winning against what he started.

    Instead of running away from the NRA, you should be running towards the NRA. They need our help now more than ever.......and what happens? The snowflakes on the right get all huffy and say, "well no more, I'm gonna take my 35 dollars and go somewhere else".........all I can say is adios! In a true battle, colors are usually shown; as they are now.

    I'll worry about my own back.......
    I haven't turned my back on the NRA. The NRA has turned it's back on it's membership. I don't want the NRA gone. I want the NRA stronger and unified.

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    [QUOTE=GeorgeandSugar;1702954
    Lastly, why all the silence? What is the NRA waiting for? [/QUOTE]

    and more to the point, what are they trying to hide..
    it only takes one to create chaos,, and bitterness like pride is sometimes not easily swallowed
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    i do not believe in throwing the baby out with the bath water.............i will continue to support the nra and maintain membership and encourage others to join......

    on the other hand.....i do not care for the structure of the organization and i am a strong believer in term limits....and that is for any organization or political office.

    the best of both lines of thought would be to still support the nra thru membership but be vocal about a restructure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeandSugar View Post
    To date, has anyone actually heard from the horses mouth on the troubles based on rumors, innuendos etc.

    When is the leadership in the NRA going to provide the membership with an explanation and courses of action to correct these internal problems?
    The NRA has addressed the charges (not 'troubles') based on lies, misrepresentations and innuendo. I received an email, signed by the entire NRA board, stating, in effect, the entire mess was based on BS. The 'internal problems' came about as a result of an attempted coup. Those involved have been removed from positions of power and/or from the organization.

    Attempting to address every spurious claim thown by malcontents and gungrabbers is akin to answering the question, "When did you stop beating your wife?" It cannot be satisfactorily answered. Plus, the time and money needed to disprove false allegations can be better spent elsewhere.

    It falls upon those making the accusations to prove them. Until then, its just noise and best ignored. The NRA need not disprove fraudulent charges. That's the way it works in the USA.
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    Well there you have it. The NRA say's the NRA is great and there's nothing shady to see here. I looked for an eyeroll smiley but there isn't one large enough for that steaming pile of manure.
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