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    Hydrogen, people, hydrogen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by friendof2nd View Post
    Hydrogen, people, hydrogen.
    BOOM! Remember the Hindenburg!

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    Hydroelectric. One dam with a generator can flow to another with a generator and so on. Completely reusable and renewable, as long as it rains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mini14 View Post
    Hydroelectric. One dam with a generator can flow to another with a generator and so on. Completely reusable and renewable, as long as it rains.
    There are places where dam after dam have built along the same waterways to the point that nothing's left except a small ditch.

    Water has other uses and is often tapped up and downstream from dams.

    Farmers irrigate and people drink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    BOOM! Remember the Hindenburg!

    Gasoline is very flammable and blow up in your face, if you are not careful.
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    I've seen a hydrogen fire.

    I worked at Texaco refinery, Port Arthur, Texas back in the 70s and an operator on one of the units asked if I'd ever seen a hydrogen fire.

    I hadn't, so he took me out to a heat exchanger where water cascades around hot tubes of product and placed me in a spot where a white tank was in the background.

    He pointed out the heat wave, like on a street or hot car hood and that was the fire.

    Bonus: All acids contain hydrogen.

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    Hydrogen is the most abundant element and lightest in our universe. There were carburetors in the 80's / 90's which were made to run on water. What happened to them or how it worked no one knows, well the people I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuickdrawMcgraw View Post
    Hydrogen is the most abundant element and lightest in our universe. There were carburetors in the 80's / 90's which were made to run on water. What happened to them or how it worked no one knows, well the people I know.
    Actually it’s not a mystery, only a tinfoil hat story. It takes more energy to split hydrogen and oxygen out of water than you get burning the resulting hydrogen in the car...meaning once the auxiliary power source is exhausted the car stops running...

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    Papers and magazine were talking bout it for a bit back in my high school days and just after. Never got much of a running start for people to be interested in it. Plus its not so much a myth if it was done at one high school here in Connecticut. which never made news, go figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewitt View Post
    Actually it’s not a mystery, only a tinfoil hat story. It takes more energy to split hydrogen and oxygen out of water than you get burning the resulting hydrogen in the car...meaning once the auxiliary power source is exhausted the car stops running...
    I was told by an engineer that a way to get hydrogen from water efficiently has been found, but, I would not be surprised if oil interests are keeping it under wraps or that the inventor committed "suicide".
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