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    Quote Originally Posted by bunker View Post
    That is good to hear. I've never liked the idea of buying a used firearm but trying to find a new, older JM stamped seems kinda hard so far.

    What do you mean "coefficient of a refrigerator"? Also, how accurate would you say the round is? I mostly hunt open farmland and shoot from 150-300 yards. I did read a little on wikipedia (not a 100% accurate place to go) but the article said it was effective out to quite the range?

    thanks all for the info, it really helps!!
    The bullet drops substantially at distance. I saw a buffalo rifle in 45-70 that the rear sight elevation folded up and would move about 6 inches above the barrel to shoot at long ranges. If you get a recently manufactured Marlin 45-70 I think you would be pleased with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunker View Post
    I thought for a moment that I misread that, I didn't think a bullet had the power to travel that distance at that time. Have you tried loading with a smaller grain bullet? Would that help with the accuracy and the range? lighter projectile+same powder= more range??

    Also, I read part of the article in the Cartridges of the World, I didn't realize that the popularity of the cartridge had fallen off. Very interesting to see it making a comeback.

    At this point, I think I've talked myself into the Marlin 1895 Cowboy chambered in the .45-70 but I just want to make sure that I'm sure.
    I like the big heavy slow bullets. They don't destroy half the animal due to blood shock. I don't think you will be disappointed with the 1895 Marlin .45/70.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elapid View Post
    ...I saw a buffalo rifle in 45-70 that the rear sight elevation folded up and would move about 6 inches above the barrel to shoot at long ranges...
    What was long ranges for that? I don't plan on shooting, hopefully, beyond a couple hundreds yards at the absolute most.

    Nobody likes screwing up half an animal. Done that plenty of times in recent years and its very disappointing. Hopefully it will teach me some more patience.


    Just to cover most of the bases. Are there any other calibers you guys recommend?

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    I see you're in Washington state. Do you plan on hunting elk in the Blues, on the Peninsula or in the North Cascades?

    Blue Mountains where cross canyon shots are common: I'd recommend a specialty loaded .30-06, .300 H&H Mag or .300 Win Mag. The .300 or .270 WSM rounds will work as well.

    The Peninsula or North Cascades: .45/70 will work just fine as will the above mentioned cartridges.

    I don't believe a lever action would be my first choice unless I settled on .45/70.


    As to long range shooting with black powder cartridges. I shoot a Sharps rifle chambered in .45/120 in 1000 yd competitions. My best (a one time occurrence) was a 5 shot grouping of 9.17 inches. I placed second that day.
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    Well, the most likely is blues. My grandpa is talking about doing a elk trip next year. If not there, then probably north towards the Cusack are, couple hours south of Canada, eh.

    I currently hunt with a .270 REM and to be honest, it's my go to. I have a .300 win but I'm not sure I want to hunt a deer with it, plus it still needs a scope.

    As far as the lever action, I've always wanted one so I figured now is as good a time as any to get one. Always been fascinated by them. Just wanted to make sure I'm buying a decent chambered rifle.

    That is insane and sounds like a ton of fun. Is that open or scoped?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunker View Post
    That is insane and sounds like a ton of fun. Is that open or scoped?
    Open sights. Vernier rear and globe front sights. A good set costs more than a good scope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    Open sights. Vernier rear and globe front sights. A good set costs more than a good scope.
    Holy hell. That's amazing. One hell of a shot.

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    Lookit. Your .270 is a fine white tail and mule deer rifle. You have a .300 Mag that needs a scope. Take the money you plan on spending on a lever action and buy a quality scope for your .300 Mag. You'll be good to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    Lookit. Your .270 is a fine white tail and mule deer rifle. You have a .300 Mag that needs a scope. Take the money you plan on spending on a lever action and buy a quality scope for your .300 Mag. You'll be good to go.
    That's definitely an idea.

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    I agree with Popeye. Even though I love 1895 Marlin 45-70s and lever guns in general, I think a really good scope on your .300 mag is the way to go.
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