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    Hi there ladies and gentlemen , I recently was handed two antique-looking guns from my grand parents who received it from their grand parent. This was part of my motivation for joining here, after searching around on the internet I just cant seem to match this gun with any of the antique guns I came across- and I looked at many.

    The information I received from my grand parents were quite vague and lacking (in my opinion). I came here to see if anyone would actually have any input on one of the guns which I failed to identify myself.

    The story goes that this gun was used in the ''slag van bloedrivier'' [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]ulu

    Here are the photos below, if anyone has a little knowledge about this feel free to comment & reply, any hints or lead I can follow would be greatly appreciated. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] ps:would have posted more pics but I seem to be limited to 1 on this post.

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    Pictures of any markings would help. If was used where the story says, it is most likely European (British).

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    Some black powder guns are hard to pin down as there was a ton of makers and some have little or no markings. You can post more pics just by replying more. Are there any markings on the barrel, side plates or trigger guard? Close up pics of the side plates and any markings might help someone here identify it. Hard to tell but it looks like a smaller barrel which would indicate a smaller caliber than the standard 50cal or larger of the time. I think they called the smaller ones squirrel guns.
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    Pictures continued:
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    sorry wrong link. What you have is a percussion carbine. It could have been locally made. Let google be your friend, search on early 1800's European muzzleloaders.
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    It's a percussion rifle which dates it to the mid-1800s. It has a fowler style barrel, so it was built where metal lathes (usually water powered) existed. There is no ornate scroll work or plating, so it was most likely a field rifle, build for commoners. Without any identifying marks, any further information will be difficult at best. Your rifle is in poor to fair condition.
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    Pictures Continued 2: (pictures hosted by [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] no dodgy links)
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    I hope these continued pictures makes it easier to deliver input. I was looking for any barrel markings and found none. There is a interesting piece on the butt-stock that looks like a neatly carved out block, looks like the wooden block piece can be removed to reveal something inside. I have not removed it yet, wondering if a part of the butt-stock could have been hollowed out and something placed inside, what do you guys think? see it?

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    sorry wrong link. What you have is a percussion carbine. It could have been locally made. Let google be your friend, search on early 1800's European muzzleloaders.
    Thank you Zhills, I am going to search for 1800's European muzzle loaders and see where that leads, maybe something looks similar.

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    Thank you Mad Scientist, you mentioned a few important details I'll take into account when extending the search. The rifle is 100% original hence the poorer condition,and has not been cleaned yet. The 'ram rod' for the rifle is lost as well and I really tried hard to identify any markings,specially on the barrel, none found.

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