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    Default "Tejas" is the only American state that doesn't protect cougars.

    Tejas, that's TEXAS for you gringos.

    Could this lack of regulation endanger these cats?

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    Oh that kind of cougar.
    I got confused. It is usually open season on young men by the cougars down here.
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    Could this lack of regulation endanger these cats?
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    More cats = more damage
    Fewer cats = less damage

    More cats = more shot opportunities
    Fewer cats = fewer shot opportunities

    More cats = less food availability for cats
    Fewer cats = more food availability for cats

    Less food availability = hungry cats
    More food availability = satiated cats

    These simple rules mean that if cats are going to reach an equilibrium with their environment. Now, if you change the environment you have to change the cat population. Mankind has taken it upon themselves to modify the environment for our benefit, so we have accepted the responsibility to maintain the environment and all of its biodiversity. I have had this argument often, I really enjoy when people understand this principle and then figure out that they are the reason that we must control nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rswink View Post
    More cats = more damage
    Fewer cats = less damage

    More cats = more shot opportunities
    Fewer cats = fewer shot opportunities

    More cats = less food availability for cats
    Fewer cats = more food availability for cats

    Less food availability = hungry cats
    More food availability = satiated cats

    These simple rules mean that if cats are going to reach an equilibrium with their environment. Now, if you change the environment you have to change the cat population. Mankind has taken it upon themselves to modify the environment for our benefit, so we have accepted the responsibility to maintain the environment and all of its biodiversity. I have had this argument often, I really enjoy when people understand this principle and then figure out that they are the reason that we must control nature.

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    Yes, cat populations must be balanced with deer populations. Deer are still regulated as game animals in Tx. What would be a true indicator if the cougar were ever to become endangered due to low numbers? I gather it's tough for biologists to get an accurate count of them. I still think cougars need to be watched in Texas by the scientific community. Maybe people who legally take cougars in Texas should still be required to report the kills to authorities even though they are now on unprotected status.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deputy View Post
    no....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rswink View Post
    More cats = more damage
    Fewer cats = less damage

    More cats = more shot opportunities
    Fewer cats = fewer shot opportunities

    More cats = less food availability for cats
    Fewer cats = more food availability for cats

    Less food availability = hungry cats
    More food availability = satiated cats

    These simple rules mean that if cats are going to reach an equilibrium with their environment. Now, if you change the environment you have to change the cat population. Mankind has taken it upon themselves to modify the environment for our benefit, so we have accepted the responsibility to maintain the environment and all of its biodiversity. I have had this argument often, I really enjoy when people understand this principle and then figure out that they are the reason that we must control nature.

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    I don't remember the last time I read about a mountain lion attack on a human in Texas.


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    Well here goes: There was a reported attack and killing of a child in Beauont, TX in 1911. Doesn't sound like much of a threat to me.

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    I used to know a guy that raised them (and bred them) in captivity. They are awesome animals and are quite capable of making hash browns out of your innards. The breeding pairs are essentially wild and cannot be declawed. He never went in the pens with them. He was feeding a half grown, declawed cat one afternoon when I was over there. The cat jumped up on him and started trying to get to him with its hind legs. He told me to open the gate and let him out..... I'll admit, there was some real hesitation ...

    Another time the same cat got out, took about three bounds and bit through the skull of a coon hound in the yard. The dog never saw it coming.

    I have been stomping around in the South Texas brush all my life and there have been a handful of times that I saw fleeting glimpses of what I can only explain as a mountain lion. I have never seen one long enough to identify it much less get a shot.

    My dad had some Boer goats. The last year he had them a cat took every kid that hit the ground. Then it started on the nannies. He sold the rest (about 35 head) and the cat moved on. A fellow about 20 miles away killed a big male cat some time later and the goat killing stopped.... hmmmmm?

    I've had a bunch of hunters tell me they've seen mountain lions on our place. Of course they've told me they saw Hyenas too.... I always look for tracks.. never found any.

    I had a game biologist tell me once that the cats were there, I just couldn't see them... okay...

    My opinion is that any big carnivore needs to really be, very literally, "gun shy" of humans. From the reports I've read, the northern cats tend to be a bit larger than these South Texas lions. But it's always the places where the cats are them most protected that joggers and kids get torn up.

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