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    This thread got my brain thinking. Googled Bears and AR-15. There are reports all over the board.
    Some say that the 5.56 cartridge can take down anything in north America, and some say sure with a mag dump or precise shot placement. still others say no way.
    As for me. I would not take the chance, I would stick to a tried and true big game caliber.
    But as they say with all the commercials on TV for medication.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KILTED COWBOY View Post
    This thread got my brain thinking. Googled Bears and AR-15. There are reports all over the board.
    Some say that the 5.26 cartridge can take down anything in north America, and some say sure with a mag dump or precise shot placement. still others say no way.
    As for me. I would not take the chance, I would stick to a tried and true big game caliber.
    But as they say with all the commercials on TV for medication.
    Your results may vary.
    I'm sure many have been taken with .308 ARs. The only problem is that I don't have one. (Maybe I'll tell the wife it's required camping gear? )

    I'd rather have 5.56/.223 over nothing. But it's looking like that's not the best choice for a serious encounter.

    The wife can handle the Mossberg, and I've been looking for an excuse to buy a 45-70.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KILTED COWBOY View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mmike79 View Post
    Shotgun with slugs is better, but an AR with a mag full of FMJ will flatten any animal in north America including a polar bear if we're being honest. Just don't expect it to go down after 1 shot, even if it's in the head.
    As fast as bears are, you may not get a chance for a follow up shot, better make the first one count. I don't want a rifle where I have to empty a mag to down the predator.

    I would rather hunt a large animal with a high powered rifle, but I would rather defend myself from a large animal with something like an AR or an AK any day of the week. Like you said, Bears are fast. You get one charging and you miss it with a bolt-action 300 mag, you're probably not getting a second shot. You can dump 10 Rounds out of an AR in less than a second. Defending yourself is a lot different than stalking something and shooting it from distance.

    It would be no different than defending yourself from a human attack with a high capacity
    Semi automatic 380 vs a single action 44 Magnum wheel gun. You miss with that big single action wheel gun from an up-close-and-personal attack and they're probably going to have their hands on you before you get the hammer back in another shot off for most people.

    To each his own though

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    I agree that slugs or BB would be my first choice but unlike others I don't know that I would dismiss 556 (only if you are using ballistic tip). With my ar I have two magazines coupled together. 30 rounds in the gun ready to go, a quick reload and 30 more. My 870 only has 5 with a slow reload.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RZR6-4 View Post
    I agree that slugs or BB would be my first choice but unlike others I don't know that I would dismiss 556 (only if you are using ballistic tip). With my ar I have two magazines coupled together. 30 rounds in the gun ready to go, a quick reload and 30 more. My 870 only has 5 with a slow reload.
    I've seen what 5.56 does to a large hog. It's a highly underrated round for big game even with 55 grain ball ammo. It definitely isn't penetrating like legit big game cartridge, but it's no slouch.

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    news story, bear attack, victim used 45cal 1911, emptied mag into bear, bear ran away, troopers found bear a short distance away dead.

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    Nobody said it wouldn’t kill a bear but how many stitches will you need before it drops?
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    Not with ANY degree of certainty.

    I'd say it depends, upon how good a shot you are, in a clutch, and how pissed off the bear is.
    I wouldn't hunt anything bigger than a coyote, with 5.56 or 223.
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    With all the mistaken attributes being given to a .223 caliber bullet of 55 to 63 grains weight, I am really beginning to wonder why some countries, governments and "professional hunters" stipulate very powerful and large caliber rifles for hunting dangerous game? I mean, what could possibly go wrong?

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    Watched a YouTube video with someone hunting black bear with .223. Maybe 200-250lbs, with a good shot that he had time to take. Caught the bear by surprise, it wasn’t angry and charging. It still ran 20 yards or so before dropping. Could you, yeah if you had a fast finger and good aim. Would he still hurl you to the ground and take a bite out of you, likely.

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