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    Now take out all those high murder rate cities in the US and let's see where the rest of the US stands. Hmmmm, Dem controlled, strict gun laws, huge minority populations (which the Dems have always wanted to be disarmed since before the Civil War) and that tells the story right there
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    mass shootings are rare........it is the media hype and the liberal bashing that brings it to the front page headlines.........while the numerous self-defense shootings are regulated to the back pages or not even mentioned at all........

    as an example........you mention 383 mass shootings in 10 years

    but you neglect this "back page info........

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    now depending on whose study and whom collects the data and the methods.....tons of research, different surveys and definitions......bias......but it basicly boils down to this........

    somewhere between 55,000 and 4.7 million people in the Unites States use a firearm defensively every year. ​......the basic argument on more exact numbers revolve around data collected, definitions, brandishing vs shooting, deaths, wounding, reported and not reported, etc..........

    now that seems to pale in comparison over 383 mass shootings in 10 years....reported by an agenda driven mass media that is set to take away gun ownership at all costs while neglecting to report beneficial usage of firearms......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verity View Post

    The clear evidence is that guns cause crime, massively so., they are ineffective in the hands of the public to prevent crime, are centuries out of date for forming militias to protect the state.

    You do not need guns in the hands of civilians in the USA.

    It's nuts
    Certainly is nuts.....nuts that anyone would even think that. Look at history, to all the countries that removed guns from civilians and how many were killed. MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND more MILLIONS that were slaughtered, only because a few individuals wanted power and control.

    Get real. Stop drinking the koolaide and stop spewing crap.

    BTW, I no longer own any guns but fully support those who do.
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    Another one post wonder. Once he is confronted with true facts he goes away to another site.

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    Yes, a drive by poster. The original post seemed to canned as if a copy/paste from a gun grabber website. Expect more of these as the election draws near. I find it hard to believe that disarming law abiding citizens will stop criminals from shooting people. There is definitely something wrong with their logic.

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    First its no homily and its obvious you only believe in the left wing agenda if you feel this is a
    homily. Take off the kaleidoscope glasses, put away your propaganda headphones, and stop eating the bull your handlers feed you. There have been many upon many people who stop criminals and mass shooters, just you wont hear about them because of your headphones. Over 3 million people a year use firearms to protect themselves, far out weighs the 9 to 12k homicides by firearm each year. Take off those glasses and you will see the vast majority of mass shoootings are done on gun free zones - open season the way mass killers see it. Free to pick and choose, to strike and kill with impunity.

    Even when there is a shooting and a good guy with a firearm the death toll will be none or dramatically be reduced. Even the washington post did some article bout how good guys with firearms stop bad guys with firearms. Guess you were late to the party.

    If you truly want to learn and not be a troll (which if you are and you seem like one to me - tic toc) take some advice from yourself and your side preaches - open your mind. I dont have time to even go through all the reports of people stopping criminals with firearms or the percentage rate of shootings, firearms, population amount. Though I will ;leave a few...

    Mass shootings dont happen all the time its just the media, politicians and government wont let the story fade away and keep talking bout it for weeks. Though its been tough these past few months seeing the shooter or the firearm did not meet / fit their agenda. We keep hearing bout sandy hook.

    NRA instructor stops mass shooting at a Church.

    The percetage use of modern sporting rifles in homicides is less than three percent of actual firearm homicides

    People stop more criminals with firearm then the police do. The People are there before the police seeing the criminals attack the People 95 percent of the time.

    ....oh and your percentages trying to exaggerate each of your points are wrong. Though this is to be expected from someone who has been fed half truths and false information. For instance - "The hit rate of violence using semi/modified/automatic weapons is 100% to kill and slaughter" guess you never heard of survivors. I could say the same thing about seat belts. Seatbelts save lives 100% every time theyre used. This is a half truth or even a lie. Seatbelts do kill though the politicians want money and government wants control.






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    Bloomberg must be paying these guys overtime.
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    Verity is posting from Thailand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    Verity is posting from Thailand.
    Or their IP says that anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    Verity is posting from Thailand.



    Interesting. You would think living in that part of the world they would access to the news coming from Hong Kong and realize how vital freedom and guns can be against a tyrannical govt.
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