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#1 ·
Hello. There is a maker just south of me around lake Granbury, TX. named Bond Arms. Just wondered if any have or have used any of their quality touted stuff. I have wanted a pocket derringer again for a long time. I like the aspect that their 22 diff barrel cals to date will fit the frame or original gun you buy. I would like the Back Up in the .45. Their site has great videos and some of the distance shots I like. I know some may not care for such a gun size or to carry. Any opinions ? Would love a discussion. Thanx, 1shot
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#2 · (Edited)
Arguably the best derringer made today.

Its heavy
Its big
Its difficult to cock (Get the extended grip. It makes cocking easier)
Its trigger is difficult to master (Pull down and back, not back)
Its sights are practically worthless

They are well made
They rarely break
Their barrels are fairly well regulated
 
#3 · (Edited)
Thank you pardner. Reflects most of what I"ve read. The down on trigger sounds of experience. Trigger lmastery and cocking to learn has also been my experience per a derringer. Q: Would you share my opinion a trigger guard especially when available could be a no brainer ?
 
#15 ·
I carried mine in an boot holster in addition to my normal CC firearm, it fit just inside the top of my work boots and was small enough it made no telltail bulge or press, Add a pair of pants or overalls with wide leg openings and it makes a good backup.

Figured if i ever got in a situation where i was disarmed or my normal gun had issues for whatever reason it would be a hell of a lot better then nothing, Maybe im parinoid but i operate under the moto "you can be over prepared lotsa times, You can only be under prepared once" besides it weighs nothing and at knife ranges is one HELL of a nasty suprise, Its also small enough it fits in a pocket with no issues and no press.

I really do miss my ranger though, Was a good gun, Not worth a piss past 5 yards but thats not what this kind of gun is for.
 
#6 ·
I'm gonna make a off topic post.. apologies to 1shot1k.

Two weeks ago when I was in Phoenix, I had the good/misfortune of running into a guy (twice) that was OC'ing a Bond derringer in a rattlesnake skin holster in the small of his back. :crazy:

I wanted so badly to walk up behind him and take that Derringer and hand it back and tell him this is why you don't OC in the small of your back with no retention......I know this is gonna shock some of yall but I'm smarter than that and figured I'd just keep my mouth shut. :lol:

Again sorry for the off topic post.
 
#8 · (Edited)
No need to apologize pardner, is a discussion and may have saved somebody's life ? ! On same note, I never cared for small of back personally, but only time I tried it out, I made SURE to have some retention!
Thanks input ....1shot...oh, my small of back system...

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#9 · (Edited)
Hey, we're talking about Derringers, RV0311, seems like you're on topic, to me.

I've got a cheapie, made by Cobra. Cost 220$ 0TD, and I got boned, but that

was NIB for the chromed 3-1/2 " barrel in 9mm.

No trigger guard.

Difficult to cock.

Trigger is UBER heavy.

Extractor is junky.

Has a good safety.

It surely ain't no Bond, but I find it hard

to dislike this gun, because it does what

derringers have always done.

And, upon occasion, I do carry this gun, and I

don't feel under-gunned with it. It is nicely

concealable. A great pocket gun.

I wanted to get some firearms with western flavor,

without adopting all the kinks of old west designs.

You'd have a hard time separating me from my derringer,

coach gun, lever, and six-gun.


You have to wonder if that guy cut that hole in his pants,

or if it found it's way there,

all on it's own.
 
#10 ·
Hey, we're talking about Derringers, RV0311, seems like you're on topic, to me.

I've got a cheapie, made by Cobra. Cost 220$ 0TD, and I got boned, but that

was NIB for the chromed 3-1/2 " barrel in 9mm.

No trigger guard.

Difficult to cock.

Trigger is UBER heavy.

Extractor is junky.

It surely ain't no Bond, but I find it hard

to dislike this gun, because it does what

derringers have always done...

I wanted to get some firearms with western flavor,

without adopting all the kinks of old west designs.

You'd have a hard time separating me from my derringer,

coach gun, lever, and six-gun.


You have to wonder if that guy cut that hole in his pants,

or if it found it's way there,

all on it's own.
I always wanted to get a 12g sxs and make me a little coach gun, make it just beyond legal barrel and overall length...sorry for drift...Cobra is ok if you got a nice one, sounds like you did.
 
#12 ·
Quickly, you know, I had a little sxs .410 from wally world in mid 70's...loved it...was cheap dont know if was taurus, but was Brazil made and had a bull on it...stole from gun rack while I was dining...miss it, learned my lesson on gun racks...drift over lol
 
#13 ·
......as popeye stated, that trigger pull is a different animal and would take some training.

since the trigger guard is removable, would probably order one with it.......could always take it off later on if i wanted that Jim West look. Just remember you have to do something with that trigger finger while thumb cocking it with one hand.......

Just what i need...another gun similar to the T/C contender barrel change concept.....talk about collecting barrels....been there-done that.....:thumbsup:.........it was sure fun arguing with the wife about how much money i was saving by just purchasing barrels. (and a spare frame for competition, specialized sights, additional optics)

i seriously considered the Bond for a while. I like the barrel swap feature and was thinking 357 along with the 45/410. The 357 since i could shoot 38's to my heart's content including mild cowboy loads......and the 45 colt for the same reason.....The 410?....yep i want to experience that 1st hand ever since i saw Charles Bronson use an American Derringer in Assassination.:lol:

and if i got attached to the dang thing, probably a few more calibers/barrels as well.

i don't know if i would ever actually carry one......but it would be nice to shoot and fondle one whenever i wanted to.
 
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#14 ·
Been studying site...didnt know guard removable...thanks. I liked looking through accessories...I would get one of the little leather belt flaps with loops for four rounds...small and cool looking and functional it seems...
 
#16 ·
15-20 years ago, I came by a pre-owned chrome Davis Ind. 32acp. I came to like it a lot. Always worked as it should, had the added cross-bar safety, which I actually liked, other then that it was pretty much like an antique original . Not often carried off property, but it could have been a very concealable BUG if I ever needed it as such....

I eventually made the NEVER DO THIS mistake, of loaning it to a once-upon-a-time former friend, he claimed it was stolen from him, and I never got it back.

These days, my choice is a NAA .22 mini mag... 3 more rounds, and just as, if not, even more deadly....and even smaller in stature, so it's also VERY concealable... Sweet lil' revo....But I still occasionally miss that 'Derringer'. It was just a fun lil' shooter....

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I culd not afford a Bond so a settled for a Davis in .38 Special. No way would I use a standard load for it so I worked up a load. I have no problem hitting a human sized torso at 50 feet. That Davis fits nicely in a little holster and a rubber reloading strip and was always in my jacket pocket whan I was going to college. To many late nights in the library till closing and before that in the chem and biology labs to not have something other then a pocket knife.
 
#21 ·
i like affordable.......been a lot of years where costs were the over-riding factor and time was not a friend as in waiting......something always seemed to come up hitting my rat hole money as more urgent to redirect to another cause instead of my gun funding project......
 
#22 ·
Most of the derringers are the same size or larger then semi-autos. Except for the .22 shorts that can hide in a belt buckle, it's better to carry a multi-shot micro pistol then a two shot derringer.
IMHO a derringer is a novelty or at least a very limited use in today's firearms.

But love James West's sleeve derringers. (Wild wild West circa 65-69)
 
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One occasion I had parked my 63 Studebaker pickup infron of the local Lowes which was less then 200 feet from the PD......this grungy dude was trying to break into the truck. I had it packed up tpo gp to the cabin with more guns locked inside but covered.

Another occasion I was up to the family cabin with my then nine year old niece and one of her friends. I was cooking dinner and happened to have my Davis in the chest pocket of my flannel shirt when I heard footsteps in the porch and the cabin door latch click which is why I was able to catch the first intruder with the hammer back under his chin.

That same niece had a methhead boyfriend. A couple years back I let him crash in my hot tub room....even built a fire in the wood stove so he would be warm.......I gave him some fishing gear so he could go fishing 12 blocks away......he then came back and stole $300 worth of stuff that I had in the hot tub room.......the next time he showed up he was greeted by me and a cap n ball .44 and prompted to never come back.
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Popeye you must not get out of the house much.......when I returned scaffolding to the rental place a few years back I had missed an armed robbery by only five minutes..
 
#28 ·
I'm a physically large man. 6'4" 240 lbs (then) shrunk down to 6'1" 220 lbs (now). My carry handgun is to get me out of situations where my life is in imminent (right now!) danger. If I feel the need to draw it, I'm committed to using it.

I'm now an old man. I do not go looking for trouble. I leave the area when I see potential trouble coming my way. I no longer associate with those of 'iffy pedigree'.

I've been involved in many dust-ups (hell, I was Seattle's undefeated bar fighting champion for five years in the 1970s). I've never seen the need to pull a firearm. I've always been able to handle things with my fists and feet. I have not felt my life was in serious danger so my handgun has remained holstered.

My last physical altercation was around four or five years ago. A doped-up, foolish neighbor tried to push by me and enter my home. I sharply hit his breastbone with the heel of my hand. He went down, crawled out into my yard and cried. He wouldn't leave, just wallowed around crying. I called the police and they dealt with him . Oh yeah, I was carrying at the time.
 
#30 ·
Once again. Unless your life is in imminent danger... your carry firearm belongs in its holster. It is not there for you to bluff, bluster, scare or to prove yours are bigger than his. It is there as a last resort. It is there to save your life (and the lives of yours) when all other options are exhausted.
 
#32 ·
Popeye you are a fool that can not read worth a damn. If the person had broken into my truck and got his hands on my other weapons it would have been a warzone and I would have been liable. You have no experience with meth users mood swings they can be agreeable and then snap and any fool not knocking on your door or ringing your door bell but just opens up your door and walks in is askimg to die right there as you have no way of knowing their intentions especially when you have children inside.
 
#34 ·
And you, sir, are very quickly wearing out your welcome here.

Personal attacks are not tolerated on this posting board. Stop it!

I fear your mindset and your stated actions will end up with your imprisonment. You are not Rambo. You are not a sworn peace officer. Threatening someone with a firearm because of what you think they may do is a surefire recipe for personal disaster.
 
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