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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggidy View Post
    My best answer is not to buy one until you have tried shooting each one on your list, and then some. Big mistake people make (as I have) is buying on looks and what they think they may like. Go to the range, rent a few (bunch). Then make your decision.

    I have repeatedly ignored my own advice (that I learned here) and bought a few that I really did not like.

    Tank your time, and try before you buy.
    This!! I invested in a range membership at my local place, then went in often and fired several. I also have a friend who really likes guns, esp his Glocks. So I shot those too.

    I built up a list of things I wanted in a gun, and other attributes I wanted to compare. I've never owned a gun before (still haven't bought it -- work is too crazy until around Oct), so I wanted to go through a couple boxes of bullets at least before deciding.

    For me, the Springfield XD Mod 2 4" 9mm won. Fits my hand perfectly, 16 round mag, nice recoil, doesn't dig into my hand when I fire, and gives this untrained newbie a nice group at 5 yards. (I told my wife: "This is what you're getting me for my birthday!")

    I'm also of the opinion that I'm not just buying a gun - I'm buying a "system". I need to look at all the component parts and make sure they work together. I once bought a car that fit my family and had decent engine power - I failed to see that this model transmission was garbage. Some components were good, but the system as a whole was a fail.

    So .... this gun .... what holster do I want? Can I safely and easily draw from it and reholster? And with that gun and that holster, how will I conceal? What wardrobe changes might be needed? For you, maybe nothing other than a good gun belt.

    And maybe this is way too deep for most people. But I personally feel I need to consider *all* the pieces, and make sure the system as a whole works. Not trying to push this on you ... but this is how I am thinking.

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    Thank you for all of the suggestions! After sorting through a lot of different guns, I've come up with a short list of guns(probably only the first of many hah). It would definitely help me to get your advice on the various handguns listed here. My criteria was pretty simple: concealability and price(gun & ammo). Each gun here represents different features along with different combinations of my aforementioned criteria. As I've said before, I plan to test out a number a few guns before buying. My goal is to simply narrow the list so that I'm testing only the features that require physically holding the gun, instead of things I could have researched ahead of time. So, without further a do:
    • - M&P Shield
    • - Glock 26
    • - Sig P365 XL
    • - M&P 2.0
    • - Taurus 85
    • - S&W M360


    Some Notes:
    Subcompacts - By and large, my selection is all about seeing how big is too big. I even threw in a compact for that reason. It's simply something I can't test without having the gun in my hand.
    Revolvers - I've decided that I only want a DA/SA revolver. I like the added option, and don't mind learning more. To be quite truthful, I'm kind of leaning revolver overall. Recently, I realized that much of the revolver is thinner than a semi-automatic. So even if the chamber is wide, the print will be pretty minimal(and not look like a gun). Obviously, I give up ammo(and settle with more expensive .38 special). Still, it doesn't seem unreasonably expensive, and I am not primarily concerned with capacity(more is always better, but concealablity is simply #1).

    So that's what I've figured out so far. There are questions I will answer at the range("Do I like metal frames? Which shoots the best? Which is easiest to conceal? etc.). Still, it feels like I've made some progress in narrowing down the options. Clearly though, there are many different options out there(which seem almost identical to me). Is there any reason to switch one of these guns for a similar model or brand? Are there any other major factors I need to consider, or and other major details to look into? (All the minutiae is obviously fun, but if the S&W 640 Pro is just slightly different than the M360, I prefer to not become too confused before my first purchase. However, if I've overlooked something big - please let me know! Or if you have some experience that weights on the options, feel free to throw that in!) Thanks!

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    First gun get a Hi Point (laugh all you want) carry it, learn to shoot with it hitting the target when you step up to a better M&P, Sig, or whatever you will have 1) Better Knowledge 2) Better Appreciation 3) Better trigger control and if you decide guns are not your thing you are not out $400-$700
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    Nothing wrong with Hi-points. They work and work good. The customer service is outstanding. Used ones can be found for around 100.00 USD. I own 8 of them. 4 pistols and 4 carbines. And the warranty stays with the gun from owner to owner.
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    I am probably wrong here, but I doubt you will find the perfect gun that fits all your needs; on the first buy. I am frequently wrong; however, with your minimal experience and allot of requirements equals a cool gun for now, but in a year (if that) you will determine your requirement demands have changed.

    I think it is very good you are reaching out and studying. It's like picking out a life career, many many many change majors midstream or after they graduate. DOn't be surprised if your "likes" change with the gun. You may end up with many many guns and then you can join the club - ADOA club - Addicted Gun Owners of America.
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    Sounds like you'll need 2 pistols. I live in Az and I have a SIG P238 that I carry everywhere and is easily concealable. Shorts that have pockets and a drawstring so my shorts do not fall down with the little SIG in them work. A cheap Ruger LCP would work too. Problem is the small pistols are very hard to shoot well.
    The G-19 you mentioned is affordable, rugged and reliable. It is also easy to conceal in casual clothes and more importantly easy to learn to shoot and you can compete with it.
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    I personally have a M&P shield. It is a great gun, and I highly recommend it. Millions have bought shields (according to S&W website), so there is also a lot of after market stuff for them if you decide to change things up. And they aren't too expensive either. But I do recommend test shooting one before purchasing.

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    Also, ETS is coming out with mags for the shield in the near future, with higher capacity than factory mags, if that is something you are also considering.

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    one quick word.... if you go with the M&P shield 9mm you can get 8 cartridge mags and you'll do a lot better handling and performance wise getting the performance center model.. has a lighter trigger pull, neon sights, ported and is very easy to set up with laser... pistol and green dot laser less than $ 600.00 in most places..
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