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    At the range today playing with some BP plus a 44 Ruger and my buddy had a few guns. His girlfriend was shooting various guns and when she was shooting his S&W model 29 she had two rounds go off. I have seen several videos of this mostly involving the 500 S&W but this is the first time i have ever seen it happen in person. I just happened to be taking a quick break and was watching her just as it happened. Needless to say she put that back down and went back to shooting his SKS. It was just like this video at the 24 second mark.

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    I have heard "strain screw" per the 29 and early " bolt release " trouble per the 500...? Either way, almost always seen involving women or poor grip men shooters. Or so I've heard.
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    What do either of those mean? I always thought it was the recoil causing the person to pull the trigger again in double action.
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    You are right. Only way can happen. No clearance on sides of cylinder either one (29,500) for otherwise discharge to go unnoticed in big way. Seems the rare double fire tied to grip, and facilitated or helped...by loose Strain Screw (29) and Bolt Release or recoil causing cylinder to rotate (known on early 500 and other cordon monsters during R&D)...The two rounds definitely leave barrel. Also, found early complaints on 29 of some FTF and primers showed double or triple dimples or dents, denoting multiple soft hits, yet from single trigger pull. Also determined to be light trigger related, via Strain Screw..?
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    I am not sure what happened here but that is not a double tap. It is a negligent discharge. Double tap is something else and it is deliberate. A developed skill. Sorry to pick nits.

    Double tapping with a 44 revolver would be very difficult. Mine is a 29-2 and maybe it is the long barrel but it seems to take for ever to bring the barrel back down for round #2. Not a good self defense gun. IMHO
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    i have seen some slow-mo videos on the 500.......for some first time shooters, there are a lot of things going on with a big unhealthy dose of suprise. A wonder some of them did not get a front sight back between the eyes or drop the weapon as it tries to twist out of their hand......especially for the few brave souls that try one hand shooting.

    i am thinking they are literally loosing their grip and finger contact on the trigger and then over=compensating in a matter of micro seconds reacquiring the grip with sympathetic muscle control/trigger finger pressure response trying to make a fist while re-acquiring the grip............but who knows

    ......prefer a SA revolver or a Contender for such power levels as i could probably never be able to shoot DA to my satisification with such power levels.......which is why i guess ole' Dirty Harry admitted to carrying 44 specials in one of his movies.........
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    drift...I've heard/read two trivia about the 1st Dirty Harry fkick...
    1- John Wayne (of whom I'm trivia expert) wanted that role so bad he could taste it...after, it aired. Reason for the two detective pics he made before his death.
    2- Loader told me, that " most powerful hangun ..." wasn't exactly true at that time said...besides experimentals of course, he told me if revolver made for it, and cartridge loaded for it, the .45 long Colt at least on paper and velocity and foot pounds, beat the .44 mag, or could. I'm not a loader, can't verify.
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    I could load and fire a 45 colt in my S&W 460 that would maybe not eclipse but beat a 44 mag cartridge. Technically, you just need the gun to take the pressure
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    Back in the 1970's Ruger recommended that reloaders crank the muzzle velocity up to about 1600 fps with the 240 grain bullet when loading for the .44 Mag carbine. I did it and it shot great. I marked all my primers with that load with red ink to ensure they didn't find their way into my Model 29-2, or Ruger Super Black Hawk. It more than likely would not blow the gun up. At the same time it would not very much fun to shoot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siplace View Post
    I am not sure what happened here but that is not a double tap. It is a negligent discharge. Double tap is something else and it is deliberate. A developed skill. Sorry to pick nits.

    Double tapping with a 44 revolver would be very difficult. Mine is a 29-2 and maybe it is the long barrel but it seems to take for ever to bring the barrel back down for round #2. Not a good self defense gun. IMHO
    On the other hand if I shoot any two legged predator with a .44 magnum and it doesn't go down double tap probably wouldn't have made any difference anyway. I just shot Superman, and now he is pissed.

    During the early Dirty Harry craze I had several 29's brought into the shop for repair. The owners were complaining about the double shot problem. It seems that some one had put out some bad information about lightening the trigger by grinding down the strain screw. Easy fix for a dumb problem.
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