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    Cool Ruger 22 45 or mark III

    I am just helping a buddy here on something I am not sure of so maybe someone can assist.

    I know the Ruger Mark III is legendary but he is looking at the newer 22 45 version and I have never delt with them or even touched one. Does anyone know the difference or the quality or any helpful information? This gun appears to be cheaper than the Mark III so does this mean they cheapened it up. Any experienced advice is greatly appreciated.
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    I have never shot the 22/45 but from talking to people that have, it is a nice plinking, backpack type firearm but some have complained about accuracy. I would not think the 22/45 would be in the same class as the Mark series. And having held one a few times, it has a cheap feel to it. Just my opinion and what I have heard.
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    I have had a few Ruger Marks. The 22/45 is supposed to be the same grip angle as a 1911, has a polymer frame (The Ruger Marks have a steel frame), and the safety is in the same place as a 1911. The new Ruger Mark III now have the magazine release on all their models in the same place - on the side. Before, the Ruger Marks had the magazine release on the bottom of the magazine well and the Ruger Mark 22/45s had it on the side of the frame - just like the 1911. The Mark and the later Mark 22/45 are both very good 22lr pistols and are disassembled the same way. Accuracy on them are the same, just this all depends on the shooter himself - in regards to how much he practices with it, sights/optics, and the grip style he is comfortable with. My preference is the grip angle of the Ruger Marks, not to fond of the 22/45s grip angle though a lot of people like the angle of the 22/45. I do not cared for the new Ruger Mark III or the new Ruger Mark III 22/45, all because of the safety features on them. They are still good firearms, just I'm not big on what Ruger did with the added safety features. If I was in your position I would help your friend look for a Ruger Mark II or a Ruger Mark II 22/45 in a target model, this is me though.
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    NO DEBATE - the Mark III is my choice. "Standard" configuration only. (The target and hunter models are hopelessly clunky looking.) Combining the elegant lines of a Luger or Lahti pistol with Ruger quality, it's hands-down the .22 autoloading handgun of choice.

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    i prefer the standard Mark metal frame series........preferably the Mark II series as i actually like the butt-heel mag release as i view it as more secure.

    I also despise the grip of the 22/45......it just does not feel right for me. And at least with the metal Mark series, i can change out the grip panels to whatever suits me.........wood, plastic, or rubber. On the 22/45 series, you are very limited to a rubber slip-on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deputy View Post
    i prefer the standard Mark metal frame series........preferably the Mark II series as i actually like the butt-heel mag release as i view it as more secure.

    I also despise the grip of the 22/45......it just does not feel right for me. And at least with the metal Mark series, i can change out the grip panels to whatever suits me.........wood, plastic, or rubber. On the 22/45 series, you are very limited to a rubber slip-on.
    The 22/45 has two grip configs, removable and non removable. The removable models are @$40 higher.

    The fixed grip is model 10107 and the replaceable grip is 10158

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    Thanks everyone. So what everyone is saying there is a big difference in the grip. Also has a plastic frame and may be less accurate (which I have found in most plastic framed guns). Seems to be a reliable gun still and the function is the same. I will let him know this and thanks a bunch.
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    Yes, the Ruger Mark III 22/45s are the only 22/45s that have the option of changing out the grip panels. Out of the four models Ruger offers, for the Mark III 22/45, two will have interchangeable grip panels. The older Ruger Mark II 22/45 will not have this option.

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    Just an interesting point I did not see anyone hit or at least talk about very clearly. The 22/45 model with the wood panel grips that are removable (to change the grip panels to what ever you like much like you can with a 1911) are going to be a little wider overall in how the grip feels. The cheaper 22/45 model has just an entire one piece plastic grip and frame and is actually a little thinner. It feels thinner and changes how you grip the gun. The wood panel model is wider so more comfortable in my hands. Much worth the extra money. This will be a big factor - or at least it is with me - when purchasing a handgun. The grip must fit comfortably to shoot well however we are talking about one thing out of many in order to shoot well but keep in mind on the difference in how the grips feel.

    I own a MKII Target model, a MKIII Target model and an original 1952 Ruger Standard. The 22/45 pistols use the same uper as is used on the MK series. The internals follow a similar if not same design. You're going to get the same gun either way (MK or 22/45) it will just be a difference in feel and what the shooter prefers in their hands. Both good guns though. If you buy a MKIII of any model I highly recommend removing the magazine disconnect. And if you get to that point let me know. All you need is a MKII hammer bushing - disassemble the gun, change out bushings, keep the magazine disconnect and it's spring out of the gun and reassemble.
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    I own a Mark II, very nice very accurate.

    I also own (wife does) the newer Mark III 22/45 witch is nice. SHe preferred this over the the Mark II probably because it is a tad lighter for her (plastic handle). Both shoot very well, both good choices IMO; but the MArk III is the way I would go (just feels more solid in my hand).

    BOTH ARE A PITA to disassemble and are sightly different when re-assembling.

    What "I" do not like about the 22/45 is the plastic and the mag release. On the Mark II is is much smoother, on the 22/45 seems as though I need to fumble with it. Possibly because it really has not been broken in yet (about 100 rounds through it). I would think it would loosen up a bit after some use.

    If I could, I'd sell you her 22/45; but it ain't mine to sell.

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