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    Hi, im looking to get my first gun. Im dead set on a rifle from one of the world wars. Im only 16 so i dont have that much cash. So if you guys could reccomend a good gun from one of the wars thats relatively cheap around $450 that would be great. There are a lot of guns out there and I just wanna know which ones you guys like the best.

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    Not knowing your location makes it difficult to suggest a rifle and that combined with your age makes it real difficult. My overall take is that to purchase a long gun (rifle or shotgun) legally you must be 18 years of age. If you have a parent that is OK with you having a rifle then they will need to purchase it for you.

    That said I would suggest a gun show and look at surplus military like the Mosin Nagant type bolt action rifles or any of the mouser rifles or maybe an old British Enfield rifle. Even with a $450 budget you will be hard pressed to find a US military type rifle (unless you get lucky). The Mosin Nagant, Assorted Mousers and British Enfields all are popular surplus rifles. Another pretty nice rifle is the Spanish FR 8 Mouser chambered in .308 if you can find one out there. I would start by doing some homework and reading a little then visit a good gun show. Shop wisely as the same gun can have several prices at a show.

    Also, to reiterate, make sure this is fine with your parent(s) who will need to approve and buy the gun.

    Finally if you want to forgo the military rifle thinking there are some fine .22 caliber rifles that make a great first gun and are cheap to shoot. More food for thought.

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    Model 91/30 Mosin Nagant rifles (WWII vets) sell for between $95.00 and $150.00 (depending on the day) retail.

    No4 MkI Enfield rifles (WWII vets) sell for between $150.00 and $700.00 (depending on condition, mostly) retail

    Russian capture Nazi K98k Mausers now sell for approximately $450.00 retail.

    Finn Model 39 Mosin/Nagant rifles can be found for $450.00, or less.

    Swiss K31 Schmidt Ruben rifles can be found for $450.00, or less.

    Swede Model 96, Model 96/38 & Model 38 Mausers can be found for $450.00.
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    I have permission from my parents to get a gun. My dad's got a license and everything so hes buying it im just paying it. Im in NJ by the way. For Enfields, isnt it pretty hard to find surplus ammo for them? Would i just have to buy new ammo in .303?

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    Surplus .303 British ammunition is about all dried up. Good surplus .303 British ammunition is extremely rare. Wolf Gold has new manufacture, reloadable brass, .303 British ammunition for reasonable prices.

    Truthfully? Most all surplus ammunition except for 7.62x54Rmm Russian, 7.63x39mm Soviet and 5.56x45mm NATO is in relatively short supply.
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    First firearm ever and you want to jump into a used rifle from a war/conflict. Since you did not give your experience, handeling, or knowledge of / or about firearms...I would say, and being 16 on top of that / you need to be 18 to own a rifle, a 22 LR for your first firearm. Your father can purchase it but its in his name until you turn 18. After that then any of the other firearms mentioned in this thread would be good. I myself would opt for the Lee Enfield British 303. That bolt action on the Enfield is smooth and fast for that period of rifles, if not the best bolt action for that period imo.
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    Well I do have some experience. Ive gone to the range and know how to shoot an m1 garand and a springfield 03 pretty well. Ive been shooting them for a couple of years, but theyre my dad's friends guns.

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    Get something chambered in 7.62x54. Surplus ammo for that is very cheap. The Mosin Nagant would be the best rifle. Pay $100-150 for a great condition rifle and use the rest for ammunition or a scope.

    But what exactly are you looking for? Something that's modern, or more of the wood and steel type? Are you going to use it just for punching holes through paper, or will you be wanting to do any hunting/ competition shooting?

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    Im just looking for a fun gun to go shoot with my dad. I dont want a modern gun, Im a lot more interested in the history of the older guns.

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    Big 5 just had their Mosin Nagants on sale for $119. I just got one. You get the bayonet and a sling and little pouches and tool kit etc.
    One of our sponsors (Cope Dist) has spam cans (440 rds) of ammo for it for cheap. I just got one of those too.
    With tax and everything it was $210 to the door ammo and all. Hard to beat that.
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