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    Default 45/70 a good rifle?

    I was thinking about getting my fifteen year old son a H&R handi rifle in 45/70 but first I was wondering do they have alot of recoil? He's shot a 12ga a .22 and a 30-06.He's 6 feet tall and 210 pounds, so he's not small.My other question is do you think this would be a good rifle for black bear,whitetail and mountain lion?

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    Yes and yes. They do have a lot of recoil, but anyone who can shoot a 30-06 should have no problem with the 45-70. The round is as deadly as any, given its relatively short range. Mountain Sheep may be the only American game animal that the 47-70 would be inappropriate for, and that's because you can never get close to them.

    That being said, a single shot rifle may not be the right piece for dangerous game like bears and cats. I love the 45-70 and the whole historical firearms thing, but would recommend a lever action rifle, for speed and ease of follow up shot(s).
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    I took my first deer with a trapdoor Springfield in 45/70. However, I have to agree that if I was hunting bear, I'd want more than one round in the rifle.

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    Would you say its less or more recoil than a 12 gauge?

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    Way less than a three incher.
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    A 12 gauge 3" is around 52-54 ft lbs recoil energy. The 45-70 is around 18-23 ft lbs.

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    Ok Thanks thats good because he really dosent like the 12 gauge cause of it's recoil.

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    MattD94- Get your son a .45/70 Guide Gun. I've got one in Stainless, and it'll put anything down. I agree that with cats and bears one needs more than one shot just in case.

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    I have an H&R Ultra Hunter in .45-70 with a 24" heavy stainless barrel. It is exceptionally accurate with hand loads and still holds tight groups with Hornady's polymer tipped boxed ammo. I like the single shot H&R because I'm a handloader and I can shoot some very hot loads through it without much fear... I couldn't do the same with most lever actions. However, what the others say is true, for hunting purposes where the game is dangerous and usually close-in, I would want a repeater, especially if I wasn't 100% certain of the first shot.
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    I noticed in your siggy that you are a single action fan. I once had a single action 12 gauge I bought at an antique auction, and I liked it, but it went in a burglary long ago. . .

    I load as well, but never have my bolt or lever guns given me any lack of confidence when trying hot loads, and I have a Winchester lever gun in 45-70 that is older than I am that can handle anything in the book - and has. If you go out beyond the edge, I can't imagine any load that your single action could handle that my Marlins could not. To me the only lure of a single action is light weight. I don't see any lever guns in your siggy. Try one. The Marlin 336 line is up to whatever job you have in mind, and it will still be useful if shtf.
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