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    Default The Black Community and Crime

    Walter E. Williams
    Jan 11, 2017


    The FBI reported that the total number of homicides in 2015 was 15,696. Blacks were about 52 percent of homicide victims. That means about 8,100 black lives were ended violently, and over 90 percent of the time, the perpetrator was another black. Listening to the news media and the Black Lives Matter movement, one would think that black deaths at the hands of police are the major problem. It turns out that in 2015, police across the nation shot and killed 986 people. Of that number, 495 were white (50 percent), 258 were black (26 percent) and 172 Hispanic (17 percent). A study of 2,699 fatal police killings between 2013 and 2015, conducted by John R. Lott Jr. and Carlisle E. Moody of the Crime Prevention Research Center, demonstrates that the odds of a black suspect's being killed by a black police officer were consistently greater than a black suspect's getting killed by a white officer. Politicians, race hustlers and the news media keep such studies under wraps because these studies don't help their narrative about racist cops.

    The homicide victim is not the only victim, whether he is a criminal or not, for there are mourning loved ones. No one ever fully recovers from having a son, daughter, husband, mother or father murdered. Murder is not the only crime that takes a heavy toll on the black community. Blacks are disproportionately represented as victims in every category of violent crime -- e.g., forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault.

    Today's level of lawlessness and insecurity in many black communities is a relatively new phenomenon. In the 1930s, '40s and '50s, people didn't bar their windows. Doors were often left unlocked. People didn't go to bed with the sounds of gunshots. What changed everything was the liberal vision that blamed crime on poverty and racial discrimination. Academic liberals and hustling politicians told us that to deal with crime, we had to deal with those "root causes." Plus, courts began granting criminals new rights that caused murder and other violent crime rates to skyrocket. The liberals' argument ignores the fact that there was far greater civility in black neighborhoods at a time when there was far greater poverty and discrimination.

    The presence of criminals, having driven many businesses out, forces residents to bear the costs of shopping outside their neighborhoods. Fearing robberies, taxi drivers -- including black drivers -- often refuse to do home pickups in black neighborhoods and frequently pass up black customers hailing them. Plus, there's the insult associated with not being able to receive pizza or other deliveries on the same terms as people in other neighborhoods.

    In low-crime neighborhoods, FedEx, UPS and other delivery companies routinely leave packages that contain valuable merchandise on a doorstep if no one is at home. That saves the expense of redelivery or recipients from having to go pick up the packages. In low-crime communities, supermarket managers may leave plants, fertilizer and other home and garden items outdoors, often unattended and overnight. They display merchandise at entryways and exits. Where there is less honesty, supermarkets cannot use all the space that they lease, and hence they are less profitable. In high-crime neighborhoods, delivery companies leaving packages at the door and supermarkets leaving goods outside unattended would be equivalent to economic suicide.

    Politicians who call for law and order are often viewed negatively, but poor people are the most dependent on law and order. In the face of high crime or social disorder, wealthier people can afford to purchase alarm systems, buy guard dogs, hire guards and, if things get too bad, move to a gated community. These options are not available to poor people. The only protection they have is an orderly society.

    Ultimately, the solution to high crime rests with black people. Given the current political environment, it doesn't pay a black or white politician to take those steps necessary to crack down on lawlessness in black communities.




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    This seems to support exactly what I've been saying, about every third post, for, oh, months?

    These people want US to care about them, when they care not, for themselves...

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    You missed the point.

    What changed everything was the liberal vision that blamed crime on poverty and racial discrimination. Plus, courts began granting criminals new rights that caused murder and other violent crime rates to skyrocket.
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    Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
    Can't blame exaggerated social justice issues either. it's still a people problem.

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    LBJ began the destruction of the black family in the US. Successive administrations have continued this destruction. This is the root of the 'black problem'. In reality, its the results of liberal/progressive/leftist policies. Its a 'leftist problem'.
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    Kinda funny/interesting how this is shaping up. Former US AG Eric Holder said we were [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] on discussions of race. And discussions like this didn't/couldn't happen until Obama was on the way out.

    As we go forward from here, it will be important to remember that the Liberals need to have 'people of color' in situations of desperation and need, in order to push forward on their ideal of governing everything possible.

    If it turns out that anyone who wants to get ahead can do that, and live well, the Liberals won't have a message to sell. They're facing obsolescence, and will fight like cornered rats to maintain their grip on an ever-swelling demographic of poverty.
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    Liberals never settle or resolve issues. Nor can they pass by a settled issue without stirring it back to "fake life". As for Americans being cowards about having "racial discussions", this was essentially taken as far as it could go from 1950 thru the 1980's until "race" had been flogged to tears and there wasn't much more to be done. I guess Holder was sleeping all those years. Not really. He's a corrupt Liberal. Kick the issues back to "fake life".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    LBJ began the destruction of the black family in the US. Successive administrations have continued this destruction. This is the root of the 'black problem'. In reality, its the results of liberal/progressive/leftist policies. Its a 'leftist problem'.
    And just as the kenyan could have made a difference in Chicago and so many places in the last eight years, today we saw raw complete examples of FAILED black leadership in the grandstanding and politically shameful and unfounded actions by Booker and Lewis at confirmation hearing today. I suppose if Any of Trumps picks are confirmed, we can expect to see unified action of helping America, with the Black Caucus sitting down on the steps of the Capitol and holding their breath till they turn....blue ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    You missed the point.

    What changed everything was the liberal vision that blamed crime on poverty and racial discrimination. Plus, courts began granting criminals new rights that caused murder and other violent crime rates to skyrocket.
    These people want to follow the script, though, and they aren't willing to be responsible,

    as they know they should be, for themselves, as long as there is a well oiled and scripted

    way out, provided by others, for their own head-in -the-sand convenience.


    They don't even want to own their refusal to consider their role in the

    "liberal vision" cop-out.

    SO where were we? Oh, yes, these people want us to care about them,

    (I'll re-word it) while they cop-out, on the weight of misguided views of

    the "enlighterned elite", which, in effect, is them refusing, through the

    mindless spouting of tired exploitation dogma, to care or matter, to, or for, themselves.

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    In our little corner of the world, our "Black Community", if it just has to be called that, produces very little crime of any consequence. The reason, as I see it is this. Every Sunday and Wednesday their REAL mothers and fathers dress them up and take them out to the Minnehulla Baptist Church, or over to the Mount Moriah Baptist Church and keeps their little souls clean.

    Do they stray? Sure. But they are quickly brought back into the fold bruises and all. Their God is a jealous God and doesn't hold with other things being put before Him.

    Families. We also have what could be considered, for our population, a high number of mixed marriages. Think of the mix and it exists here. Now we have Every kind of person, racial/ethnic/cultural/whatever here in this county and in the 22 years we have lived here I have not ever once heard a disparaging remark about mixed marriages. The point to be taken here is "MARRIAGES". Marriages make families. Families are the glue, the stitching that holds the fabric of society together.

    Yes, we have idiots of all persuasions as well, and at times it seems they are disproportionate in number, but it only seems that way.

    When the government began taking the place of the breadwinners in impoverished households, it destroyed the families, all families.

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