I guess I shouldn't be surprised to see a post like this from a citizen of a country that didn't have to fight (in the literal sense, not the political one) for its independence from a European colonial power.

We had to fight for our independence as well, we won it in the war of 1812 from the United States.

Also there is a reoccurring theme in the majority of replies that refers to socialism. Please emplane how Canadian's are socialists? Every now and then i will watch CNN or Fox News and you must realize their reporting is slanted and they have a political agenda. It's not anything like they say it is up here. A real news outlet reports the story from a neutral perspective and doesn't take sides. Think BBC, CBC or and you'll all hate this one Al Jazeera. I have yet to see fair reporting in the U.S.

Quoting Stalin or Mao in context of gun control serves to point out the views of the tyrants. Once again you are unable to see the forest through the trees on this issue. I choose to carry a gun every day that's MY choice. On the flip side even the criminal gets a choice here. Don't back me in a corner and I wont bite. Personally if I were you and actually threw my wallet and keys to a mugger I'd be ashamed. Certainly wouldn't brag about it on the internet. Kind of a b*itch move eh??

Originally Posted by highboy

Quoting Stalin or Mao in context of gun control serves to point out the views of the tyrants. Once again you are unable to see the forest through the trees on this issue. I choose to carry a gun every day that's MY choice. On the flip side even the criminal gets a choice here. Don't back me in a corner and I wont bite. Personally if I were you and actually threw my wallet and keys to a mugger I'd be ashamed. Certainly wouldn't brag about it on the internet. Kind of a b*itch move eh??

I threw them on the roof of the building so no matter what he did he'd never get them.

Well I guess we are lucky he didn't shoot you in the back of the head as you walked away. Sure would hate to be missing out on your insightful posts.

Let me make an a different perspective on this situation. Many years ago I used to go to Flee markets to buy and sell radio control aircraft, remote control equipment, motors and such. I normally carried a fair amount of cash to purchase things that I though I could make money later on.
I was going to a show about 75 miles from DC. It was about 2AM in the morning and I was driving a small pickup truck with my wife as navigator. We were on a divided highway with a grass ant tree separator doing the prescribed 25 miles an hour.

A young man jumped out of the bushes about 30 or so feet in front of the truck and of course I hit the brakes and stooped just before I hit the young boy.
He walked around to the window as started talking. I rolled down to see what he was saying when another young man jumped out of the bushes and stopped in front of the truck.

The first Young man then pulled a knife and wanted my money. I acted very nervous said don't hurt me. I reached behind my seat and pulled out a S&W 32 revolver pointing it at his head. I then told him to drop the knife and that he and his friend should start running as I pulled back the hammer. He screamed dropped the knife (I still have it around here somewhere) and both young people started running (quite fast).

No I did not report it to the police due to the fact that you could not carry in the state back then and I would have been in more trouble that the bad guys.
Two things to take away from this is GUNS do stop crimes against people. Second that everybody that has a gun is not a crazy, out to kill a bunch of people!

I know a lot of people will say that I needed a bigger gun, but the 32 fit in a small hiding place behind the seat and I am sure that when I pointed it at the young mans head, trying to do the dirty deed, That it looked looked a cannon!

click

When you, especially as a foreigner, roar in here talking about changing our Constitution regarding our protected Rights you make yourself the enemy. You are talking out of pocket and you know it. You have no dog in this fight.

It you want to talk politics, stay home.

Sit down, shut up and listen as your betters (US citizens) hash out this issue.

Originally Posted by click

A quote from Mao Zedong at a speech he gave on Stalin’s 70th birthday. ” Stalin is our greatest father and teacher. In the name of Chinese people and Chinese Communist Party, we celebrate comrade Stalin's seventy birthday. May he be in the best health and live a long life! Leader of both the world's working class and Communist Internationals — Ten thousand years of life to Stalin!”. You do realize Mao Zedong was the chairman of the Communist Party of China?!?! Are you sure you want to align your views with a Communist?

Obviously, you didn't read my post in its entirety. Mao Zedong's quote illustrated the correlation between which groups hold the political power in a country and which groups control the firearms. As I said, our Founding Fathers (and Ghandi, as the other quote I included evinces) understood that concept every bit as well as Mao and others like him did. The difference is that Mao, Stalin, Hitler and their kind did not want their people to have firearms at all, much less firearms commensurate with those their militaries possessed under their control. The Founding Fathers wanted our people to have firearms to be able to defend themselves and their liberties - they wanted us to have the firearms to secure the political power in the people's hands and not in the hands of a dictatorial, maniacal ruler the likes of Mao or Hitler in control of a military the likes of China's or the Nazis. Our Second Amendment clearly states that "a well regulated Militia" is "necessary to the security of a free State," and that the "right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed," with the "militia" being defined as the body of the people by both James Madison and George Mason (two of our most significant Founding Fathers) and that definition being reaffirmed by the Dick Act of 1902.

You seem to be focused on the criminal aspect of the gun control argument. I personally believe the Constitutional aspect of the argument to be more important, but we'll set that aside for a minute. The United States has a serious gang problem - one that will not be fixed by any amount gun control, as examples such as New York, Illinois and California have proven, unequivocally. The area of Texas in which I grew up has a particularly significant gang problem (although to be fair, that gang problem and the violent crime rate it inflated have been largely reduced since the passage of our concealed handweapons law in 1995). When the gangs were at their height in Southeast Texas in the early and mid-1990s, two of my great aunts, both in their seventies at the time, were attacked by muggers suspected of being gang members on separate occasions at their homes. Both were armed and were forced to brandish their weapon in self defense, and I am not sure either would have survived those incidents had they not been prepared (one has since died, the other is now in her early nineties). On that note, I would take the time to reexamine your experience with a mugger if I were you. You were very lucky he was not armed. If he had been, and you had not cooperated and had not been prepared to defend yourself, you would likely be dead right now.

Originally Posted by click

We had to fight for our independence as well, we won it in the war of 1812 from the United States.

You won no such independence. Canada remained a colony of the British empire until the British relinquished power of their own free will and agreed to confer upon Canada dominion status in 1867. The closest thing Canada ever had to a revolution was the series of skirmishes Canadians fought in 1837, which were isolated, unorganized and woefully unsuccessful. The idea that Canada fought for independence from the United States in 1812 or, as it implies, that the United States ever ruled Canada at all is, frankly, laughably ignorant. The only reason the United States was forced to invade Canada during the War of 1812 was because of Britain's forced conscription of our citizens into their navy at sea after our independence had been recognized and the British support for Indian raids on American settlements prior to the war, for which Britain used Canada as a staging area. That in and of itself demonstrates Canada's longstanding subjugated status within the empire.

Originally Posted by click

I threw them on the roof of the building so no matter what he did he'd never get them.

Somewhere on a mugger forum there's a guy telling a story about how up in Canada they throw their keys and wallets up to "Lefty" on the roof and lock themselves in the Pizza joint and that they got four vehicles and $500 last week.

Alan

Originally Posted by Alan R McDaniel Jr

Somewhere on a mugger forum there's a guy telling a story about how up in Canada they throw their keys and wallets up to "Lefty" on the roof and lock themselves in the Pizza joint and that they got four vehicles and $500 last week.

Hmmm. That's interesting. In light of this information is it possible that click is, in fact, a criminal? This would explain his advocacy of disarming his potential victims. This throws his, seemingly senseless, post in an altogether different light.