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    Michael Krieger
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    Personally, I’m horrified by the fact that [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] of the Trump administration’s economic policy. I’m also horrified that our new President’s first overseas trip will be to the terrorist state of Saudi Arabia, a autocratic, brutal monarchy with [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. I’m likewise disgusted by Attorney General Jefferson Sessions’ [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] of the misguided and disastrous “war on drugs.” Finally, I’m very troubled by the fact Mike Flynn attempted to disrupt a military operation using Syrian Kurds to rout ISIS in Raqqa because Turkey didn’t like it, given he was working as a paid agent of Turkey months earlier and never disclosed it.

    There are a plethora of things to be deeply concerned about when it comes to Trump, yet the coup attempt against him being launched by elements of the deep state, corporate media and Hillary dead-ender Democrats is more concerning still. It’s obvious what’s happening right now is not a sincere attempt to hold a President accountable, or fight him on policy or personnel choices.

    Rather, this all seems to be a very deliberate and premeditated attempt to remove him from office.

    What’s so troubling about what I just wrote is not so much that I think it, but that it’s becoming accepted truth by a growing number of mainstream Americans. For example, can you believe [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] actually published a post with the following title?

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    Here are a few excerpts from the piece:

    There is, indeed, a bombshell of a story coming out of the news that President Donald Trump [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] during his White House meeting with Russian officials last week. But it’s not that President Trump committed any crime. The really alarming news is that the duly-elected President of the United States appears to be the target of a political coup.

    First, let’s be clear: President Trump has been sloppy, arrogant, and just plain misguided plenty of times during his short tenure in office – including the way he handled the firing of FBI Director James Comey and the hiring and firing of National Security Adviser Michael Flynn. And if he did unnecessarily compromise the source of the sensitive information he shared with the Russians, shame on him.

    But a president cannot be removed from office for arrogance and sloppiness…

    Here’s the kicker: None of this is actually working where it counts. Again, we have not one piece of evidence of any impeachable act. And it’s not even truly working in the polls. President Trump’s approval ratings may be lower than any modern president this early in his tenure, but they’re still higher than they were throughout the election. If anything, these constant attacks coming from this obviously angry and potentially illegal place are only strengthening the resolve of Trump’s base of supporters. They elected a guy they believed was truly the enemy of the established political class. And right on cue, the established political class is stopping at nothing to prove them right.

    For all the things President Trump has said that have dragged down the level of our American political discourse, this sustained takedown effort is worse. And it’s not clear how this is going to end. Unlike President Trump, the leakers remain anonymous and thus unaccountable. They can presumably go on forever. And President Trump doesn’t seem like he’s going to stop fighting back or irritating and threatening his political opponents.

    But don’t fool yourself into thinking this is OK or even tolerable. The bottom line is that we have some very powerful people in Washington who really don’t like how democracy played out this time around and what they do to attack it next isn’t going to be any better than what they’re doing now.

    Luckily the American people remain wisely circumspect about all of this. President Trump’s polls aside, the voters are still giving him a decent shot to govern. And unaccountable people in Washington shouldn’t be trying to make that decision for us.

    Once again, I want to remind you the above was published at CNBC. Sure it’s a vapid Wall Street oligarch-worshipping rag, but it’s still pretty mainstream.

    Moreover, it’s not just CNBC writers and obscure bloggers such as myself who are coming to these sorts of conclusions.

    For example, listen closely to what Dennis Kucinich had to say on the topic in a recent interview.



    I agree with Dennis completely, and another troubling aspect of all this is that the hysteria incessantly being driven by the corporate press in its attempt to destroy Trump is distracting attention away from genuine scandals. For example, yesterday’s [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] story on Mike Flynn’s undisclosed work as a agent of Turkey, and how that may have influenced his foreign policy recommendations appears to be a very real and extremely concerning scandal. Yet it gets buried in the hyperbole and hysteria, and millions of people end up tuning everything out.

    The road we’re headed down is unhealthy, counterproductive and extremely dangerous. As is typically the case, you can thank the corporate press.




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    Instead of being even remotely The United States of America, The DEMOCRATS have achieved through "identity politics" the "tribal groups of America". And we all know how "tribalism" has benefited areas of Europe, all of the Middle East and Africa.

    The strong upside is that the Conservative sections of America are voluntarily united against falling into the tribalism traps of "race, LGBT rights and gender wars". Those who voted against Hillary and the Left made their feelings and convictions known and the "game players inside Washington D.C." were and remain less than amused. "Eff 'em".

    Let the "tribes" turn on themselves and devour each other, because they aren't having any luck with "Us"..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevejet View Post

    The strong upside is that the Conservative sections of America are voluntarily united against falling into the tribalism traps of "race, LGBT rights and gender wars". Those who voted against Hillary and the Left made their feelings and convictions known and the "game players inside Washington D.C." were and remain less than amused. "Eff 'em".

    Let the "tribes" turn on themselves and devour each other, because they aren't having any luck with "Us"..
    I don't buy it one bit. Look at the last 50 years and tell me how in the world we ever got to this point in time? Certainly not because we were united. This plan of the left was / is one that we all denied could happen, as they slowly and patiently implemented - and we let them.

    The foil hat people, the conspiracy theories and such have all been laughed at as they gave out their warnings. Some very "way out there" but non-the less had a tiny bit of truth. The boiling frog is simmering very hot, almost to a boil....and once again I hear people talk about the UNITED CONSERVATIVES........Really?

    Rhetoric, that's all it is....and part of the problem. A comfort zone we place ourselves in and pretend that we will be ok, cuz we're united. We forget that while we believe this, the left is planning their next move. Their daily barrage of little attacks thus changing the political atmosphere of this country continues. And we happily go to slaughter thinking we conservatives, who are united, will save the USA. Sure.

    As sanctuary cities continue to harbor illegals, have now openly determined that you are only a criminal if commit a crime - the fact that being illegal does not imply being a criminal. The police, whom Trump and many others want to help, are not cooperating and thumbing their nose at ICE. Trump made it a point to help police and now they turn their back......and help the criminal.

    This example of society changing at all levels can only mean one thing, climate change is man made. A lie will eventually become an understood truth if repeated enough times. The climate in this country IS changing.

    The "united conservatives", IMHO, is one of those lies that people have come to believe. Even for many many of the so called united conservatives, their ideology becomes greater then the constitution that protects it. Conservatives are losing....and it is because of a lack of unity.
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    Thank Ya Zig!!!

    It's so good to know that at least ONE other person can see what is, and has seen the true facts of it all....

    I know there has to be be others that 'get it', but often wonder where the hell they're at, and WHY we have stood by and allowed this to happen.

    At this point in my life, I am almost sure it's to late to do anything with ballots. What is going on right now with our elected president and the sell-outs in Congress & Courts shows that it will take bullets, and blood in the streets, to ever set it right. If ever at all.

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    I do not believe we are at the blood and guts stage, yet. I truly believe that if the "elected", by the people - for the people, would remember just that...."for the people". Allegedly we have a majority in DC; yet we see the same old bickering and nonsense we saw over the last 10 years. The left and many rino's hate Trump and once again, willing to sell their souls and sell "us" out to keep their secret hidden.

    If the people we elected just had the gonads to support Trump the way he supports "us", we may see some improvements. I am not asking them to agree with everything, but agree on some things and SUPPORT the POUS while you have the chance. Instead we ALLOW the left to continue their effort to destroy the man who was elected. DC IGNORES the reason Trump got elected and once again, deny the fact the people are speaking and instead bow to the bogus attacks by the left and ignorant lost rino's.

    And we suffer.

    "WE" need to speak up and be heard, but writing blogs and reposting articles will not do it. We need to use the same tactics the opposition is using. It is time we stop pretending we will win by being more "civil" in our efforts - playing once has not worked.

    When the snowflakes and BLM movements get positive endorsements and I fear wearing a Trump hat becomes a reality......we need to change tactics.

    That time is now.....

    If snowflakes and BLM are positively promoted, we need to become a "blizzard" and "ALM" (American lives matter) movement.
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    Liberals are collectivists and believe rights are granted by the government based on tribal membership. Conservatives are individualists, and believe rights are inherent in the individual.

    That fundamental difference makes organized destruction a natural asset of the Left. Their many tribes clamor for special collectivist rights, many of them contradictory, but their tribal strength rests on collective grievances carefully nurtured against the individualists who they believe have organized against them.

    Individualists aren't organized, by their very nature, and the Left has exploited this to the point that many individualists have moved beyond disorganization into full-blown alienation, from society and from each other.

    There is reason to hope, though. First is the evidence of history, which shows that individualists can come together and forge the US Constitution.

    Second is the emergence of two nebulous, self-identified categories: Deplorables and the Alt-right. There's indications that these groups are finding common ground, and the will to organize, due to a growing sense of having their backs against the wall.
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    The real test to that theory will happen soon. Although I do not feel hopeless, my confidence is backed by my experiences. Complacency is winning over patriotism. The handout is winning over hard work. Fake news has a bigger support group than real life, real news.

    Good has become evil and evil has become good.

    No, I am not pessimistic; but I am cautious.

    I know how all this will end.

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    "........ the UNITED CONSERVATIVES........Really?"

    Yes, the same ones who, given the opportunity of actual expression and choice in elections, put Trump into office and have won enormous popularity in states governors and states legislations, Kalifornia excluded of course.

    I share your disgust with the RINO situation in Washington D.C. It can only be dealt with thru electing replacements - also most likely to be lying political aspirants - of the same "party", which is no small financial trick. But it needs to be done somehow. I would gladly sacrifice my Republican congressman, Dana Rohrbacher, for an actual representative with enough pulse and energy to act as something more than a "rubber stamp" official who collects a paycheck. He's honest, but a slacker of the first order. Over 20+ years in office and never been appointed to head a committee of dog-catchers.

    "I know how all this will end."

    Well, don't keep us in suspense! Share ...........
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    I do not disagree with you. I know the path we must take but can we do it in time. Can we organize and employ? Trump won some pretty strong blue states because of his platform. If he cannot produce results, we will theses states turn blue real fast. The left is politically organized, financially supported and its support base will do anything to win. I do not feel the same about the conservative base. Time is of essence and we are off on a bad (slow) start.

    And it has only just begun.....

    The left sees this disorganization as a weakness and they are preying on it.
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    Time is of essence and we are off on a bad (slow) start.

    Its been going on for a long, long time.

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