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    From the GOA via email ......

    Thanks for Your Help in This Outstanding Victory!

    Dear Mad Scientist:

    I want to thank you for taking action and contacting your Representative and Senators over the past couple of weeks.


    In a stunning victory for the pro-gun community, the first bill to repeal an Obama anti-gun measure is now headed to President Trump's desk.

    Earlier today, the Senate voted to overturn Barack Obama's Social Security Gun Ban.


    [The vote in the Senate was [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], with all Republicans voting for the repeal. They were joined by only four Democrats and one Independent. The earlier House vote was [Only registered and activated users can see links. ].]

    The resolution, House Joint Resolution 40, now goes to the president's desk, where Donald Trump is expected to eagerly sign it.


    This action is expected to be the first of a series of pro-gun actions to be taken by Congress and the Trump administration.


    The Social Security Gun Ban was pushed by Barack Obama beginning on January 4, 2016.


    It was a flailing PR stunt following a terrorist shooting in which an ISIS Islamic militant shot up a gun-free community center in the gun-hating state of California.

    Somehow Obama thought he could convince the country that nationalizing California's failed laws would prevent more of the same.


    Under the soon-to-be-repealed Social Security Gun Ban, garden-variety bureaucrats could look through applications for benefits and summarily impose gun bans on law-abiding Americans, even though they had no training in medicine and no contact with the applicant.


    Conditions as benign as "anxiety" could be used to strip Americans of their constitutional rights with no due process whatsoever. People receiving benefit payments through a guardian would also lose their guns.



    True, the victims would theoretically have the "right" to spend $10,000+ to hire lawyers and medical experts necessary to reverse the summary judgment of an untrained bureaucrat.


    But our experience is that few affected Americans have the resources to do this.


    So, congratulations! The repeal of the anti-gun Social Security Gun Ban is only the second regulation to be reversed this year under the Congressional Review Act.

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    But let him know that you also hope that he will soon repeal Obama's Gun Collectors Gun Ban and move to withdraw the U.S. from the UN Arms Trade Treaty -- as well as repealing the State Department's international trade (ITAR) guidance, and a generation of gun and magazine import bans.


    Thank you again for your activism.


    Sincerely,


    Larry Pratt
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    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] But remind him that we are hoping he will soon repeal Obama's Gun Collectors Gun Ban, move to withdraw the U.S. from the UN Arms Trade Treaty, and repeal a host of other Obama anti-gun executive actions.







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    What about the gun ban that is affecting the Veterans if they met the same reasons as the Social Security ban?

    That also needs correcting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by friendof2nd View Post
    What about the gun ban that is affecting the Veterans if they met the same reasons as the Social Security ban?

    That also needs correcting.
    There are only so many hours in a day. From everything I have read and heard, Trump is very supportive of our military personal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Racist Infidel View Post
    There are only so many hours in a day. From everything I have read and heard, Trump is very supportive of our military personal.
    As a veteran myself, I certainly hope for.
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    OC Register - Editorial Feb 16, 2017

    Require "Due Process" To Take Guns Away

    The Congressional Review Act, passed in 1996, gives Congress the power to repeal any new federal agency rule within 60 legislative days after it’s finalized.
    Congress is using that power right now to undo some regulations put forward in the waning days of the Obama administration.

    One such rule is the Social Security Administration’s new regulation that requires the agency to give the FBI the records of some people who are receiving disability payments due to mental illness, in order to prevent those people from buying firearms.

    Under this regulation, the Social Security Administration would proactively search its files for individuals who are on disability for a mental disorder severe enough that their financial affairs are handled by another person. The disabled person’s records would then be turned over to the FBI to be added to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System.

    Everyone identified by these records searches would be notified “both orally and in writing” that they are prohibited under federal law from possessing or receiving firearms, and that a violation of the ban could result in a penalty of up to 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine. Then they would be advised of their right to seek relief from the prohibition, to submit evidence, and to call witnesses to attest to their character.

    And how was your day?


    About 75,000 people with disabling mental illness, who have not taken any action at all to buy a firearm, would receive these alarming notifications from the Social Security Administration.

    Both the National Rifle Association and the American Civil Liberties Union oppose the regulation on the grounds that a government agency cannot simply remove a person’s constitutional rights without due process of law. The regulation has also been criticized by advocates for the disabled for increasing the stigma of mental illness, senselessly linking the inability to manage money with a risk of violence.

    The Social Security Administration says it received over 90,000 comments from the public about the proposed rule, some asking why the agency doesn’t limit its actions to people with a history of violent behavior. But the Social Security Administration doesn’t have records on violence. It only knows who filed a claim based on disability, whose claim has a primary diagnosis code that is based on a mental impairment, and who has been found incapable of managing benefit payments. Anyone who is in all three of those categories would be automatically barred from buying a firearm.

    The new regulation, which was introduced early last year and finalized on Dec. 19, has not yet gone into effect.

    Congress is right to repeal this rule, which gives an executive branch agency of the government the power to cancel the constitutional rights of individuals without a ruling from any court.

    There is a better solution. Four states, including California, have laws on the books that allow a family member or law enforcement to petition the courts to remove weapons from a person who is a threat to himself or others. Those laws include provisions to ensure that an individual’s right to due process of law is preserved.

    That’s a more reasonable, and constitutional, method of keeping guns out of the hands of people with severe mental illness.

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    Yep, Cornyn's my boy. Right down there in his little Monopoly lol little green house...I just dont know about Cruz anymore. I tell you, from memories of ads ran here...Cruz (and a whole lot) has slime on his shoes.
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    OK vets and SS recipients, in here you have a map to help you decide who should you vote for in 2018, if he has a D next to his name, and voted against the bill (4 Ds vote for the bill) you should think twice before voting for some politician with a D next to the name.

    For example, I do not know if Bill Nelson (DumbocRat from Florida) is up for election in 2018, but, if he is, he just lost my vote.
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