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    I've found when I go to the range, I shoot the pistol with the most recoil first, my .40. If I shoot my .22 target pistol first, I'm spoiled by the crisp trigger, and just really screw things up with my DAO carry pistol. If I shoot the .40 first, I do pretty good, if I shoot the .22 first and then the .40, the .40 is scattered all over the place, none in the center, mostly low, like 2 feet low at 10 yards.
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    I got through it with concentrating on my form and to be sure i was relaxed not making my body to rigid. And kinda let the gun surprise me when it fired is the best way i can explain it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yosemeti Sam View Post
    I've found when I go to the range, I shoot the pistol with the most recoil first, my .40. If I shoot my .22 target pistol first, I'm spoiled by the crisp trigger, and just really screw things up with my DAO carry pistol. If I shoot the .40 first, I do pretty good, if I shoot the .22 first and then the .40, the .40 is scattered all over the place, none in the center, mostly low, like 2 feet low at 10 yards.
    Wow I've been doing it backwards.
    Like at the driving range, I hit an 8 iron before a driver - I figured I'd work up in caliber at the shooting range. But what you're saying makes sense. Start big and work down, rather than the other way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coalcracker View Post
    I got through it with concentrating on my form and to be sure i was relaxed not making my body to rigid. And kinda let the gun surprise me when it fired is the best way i can explain it.
    I've heard it explained that way.
    But if I don't shoot right quick after I sight the target, the gun starts weaving around in the air. Can't quite get the exact rhythm.

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    This was my experience, borrow whatever works for you.

    I'm right-handed, but left-eye dominant. I didn't figure that out until many years after my dad, WWII Marine, taught me everything he learned about shooting, from growing up to sniper training. (Every Marine is a rifleman.)

    First off, both eyes open, and focus completely on the target, the entire time. It's impossible to focus on sights and target at the same time, and switching back and forth just confuses things. Focusing on the target, your sights will appear like a shadow over the target, but trust the shadow. That shadow will never be wrong. The target is the important thing.

    Trust your weapon to do the job. It will fire eventually, if you're moving the trigger back. Don't worry about that, it will happen. Focus on the target, keep the shadow on the target, and when it goes bang, it will be when you are on target.

    This applies to pistol work, but things get more difficult, they have a lot in common with shooting a rifle 'off-hand'. Every weapon you shoot has a different recoil, which moves your body, which establishes a rhythm. Trying to make your body rigid like an oil derrick is distracting and impossible. There's always a bounce, move with the bounce. Trust the weapon, move with the bounce, keep the shadow sights on the real focus, which is the target.

    This works for me, opinions will vary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbeyQ View Post
    That's certainly the case.
    How do you not?
    I was dry firing last night, watching the front sight dip down every time I pulled the trig.
    Relax.... Don't strangle the gun with a super tight grip. Do not lock your arms. The gun will recoil, let it. Take a tip from paratroopers. They are taught that when they land they should allow their knees to bend and roll forward to lessen the shock. The shock from landing a parachute is inevitable so they learn to roll with it. You can do the same thing with your gun. Let it come up... it is going to anyway. These guys you see on the video where the gun only goes up an inch or two are professional shooters that have fired 10s of thousands of rounds from each gun they own and they own a lot of guns. That may be a goal but you have a long way to go before you get there.

    Don't worry about speed or keeping the gun down for another thousand rounds or so. One round at a time and if you take a full minute between rounds... So what? In fact I would suggest only loading 1 round in the magazine. Now you have to stop, reload, reset your stance, reacquire a sight picture, put your finger on the trigger. Loosen your grip a bit, relax your shoulders.........
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    I'm off to the range in a bit.
    I plan to try some of the suggestions I've heard here. One of the most basic things has to be the stance and grip. I'm not done tinkering with those. If you get those right, it seems to me, then a correct trigger pull should follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbeyQ View Post
    That's certainly the case.
    How do you not?
    I was dry firing last night, watching the front sight dip down every time I pulled the trig.
    Practice.

    Balance a dime just behind the front sight. Practice dry firing while keeping the dime on the pistol.
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    "I was dry firing last night, watching the front sight dip down every time I pulled the trigger."

    And THAT is both your "problem" and the ultimate test to determine when you have achieved establishing - for you - the essentials of "grip", trigger "press" (as opposed to squeeze) and most importantly, "folllow-thru" which is the concentration on only the "front sight". Achieve those three elements in your dry-fire practice and when the front sight remains on target when the hammer strikes, you "have arrived"! You can't lie to yourself during dry-fire practice. The front sight is there on target or it isn't.

    My problem for about 40 years - shooting Colt .45 SAA's and 1911's - was eliminating the influences of my thumb and little finger in my grip. They both had twist or torque effects at the moment of trigger press. I eventually learned to relax and lighten my finger and thumb contact with the handguns. I could hit almost anything I aimed at, but could never, ever "group" my shots on NRA paper targets. Always in the black, but all over the black. But that's OK for me. I can still shoot "minute-of-beer can" at 35 to 40 yards shooting off-hand and get solid hits 60 to 70 percent of the time. The misses are so close I don't let them bother me. But I have abandoned the thought of ever being a real paper target shooter.

    Grip, trigger press and front sight, front sight, front sight ("follow-thru"). Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbeyQ View Post
    That's certainly the case.
    How do you not?
    I was dry firing last night, watching the front sight dip down every time I pulled the trig.
    I found the best way to do this is by concentrating on your front sight aligned with the back one, squeezing slowwwwly keeping the point where you want the bullet to hit till it goes bang. Once it does the bullet has left the barrel before the slide even starts to move so if you kept your point of aim that's where the bullet will go. I shoot a S&W 460 magnum that way, target at 50 feet and i'm pretty happy with the result. You just need to forget the damn recoil and concentrate on your aim

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