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    Not that it will change what and how I do it but, I like to sit at by desk at night sipping some Scotch or Bourbon while I'm cleaning and working on firearms. I guess that would make some say alcohol and weapons don't mix, but I'm cleaning, putting in a new ejector various different things you do to a gun when your working on it. There's no ammunition out of their designated boxes. most stay under the bed in groups. The only ammo around me are snap caps if I'm tuning an action or something that needs rounds going through the action. I want to know what others opinions, I'll listen to what every body has to say, but I doubt it will change my nightly unwinding sessions. But it will help reassess my routine. I personally don't see it as any harm, there are no live rounds, they have all been put up, before I have my nightcap, and nothing that could go bang is out in the room. But this is a routine i have at least 4 times a week, been doing this for years and first time I've asked anybody but thought it might make a good discussion. Looking for input but again all the components needed to go bang are not in the room, or should I say within reach without knowing what you are doing.
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    Do you drink at work? Are you allowed to drink at work?

    How about while driving?

    Of course not.

    Its because all humans tend to eff things up when even just a little bit impaired.

    I don't work on firearms when in a fugue state after a seizure because I'm mentally impaired. Booze can do the same as a fugue state.
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    Yanno, some of the same folks who are going to give you a BI--I--IG lecture

    about safety, have absolutely no qualms about shoving a cheap, striker-fired,

    no safety having, fully loaded polymer pistol down their pants for EDC, just saying.
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    I do not possess a striker fired handgun.
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    "I personally don't see it as any harm,........"

    Well..........there you go.

    But you realize you don't need ammo and booze to damage a gun. Just you, the gun and ol' Stump Blower or Black Jack.

    I'm sure you'll resolve this...........

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    Some years ago I decided that alcohol had no place in my life. Regardless of how I spun it for myself I always came back to the same conclusion. That there was nothing good I was getting from it. On a personal level I decided that this one life I have was getting shorter by the day and I did not want to blur any part of it, good or bad. For a long time I lamented that I missed the taste, that it relaxed me, that it was okay. The do-gooders on this planet go after guns because, as we all know, guns kill people…. One of the very real evils of this world is the grip that the alcohol industry has on people. I was in that grip. John Wayne and all the real men drank as a rule, smoked too. It was manly to knock back a shot of whiskey with a straight face, to take that last drag and flick that butt into the dirt and crush it out under the toe of my boot.

    One day I woke up with a spitting headache (as usual) and went in and sat on the edge of the bathtub and coughed black stuff out of my lungs and spit it into the toilet. At that point I knew it had to stop. It took me ten years to quit after I knew I had to…

    When I finally did stop, I knew I would never go back to it. I made a choice, life won. In my career as an educator, I cannot remember the number of funerals of kids I attended who died due to alcohol. There was a single one due to a gunshot, and it was self inflicted on purpose and alcohol was not involved.

    So, to answer your question…. No, it's probably more dangerous to sharpen your knife while having a drink. But, the real danger is more insidious than simply the impairment involved. Familiarity breeds contempt, and in your mind you are blurring the line between Okay and Not Okay, and justifying it by having the ammunition put away.

    A personal note. One day I opened the safe as I always do, reached in and picked up one of my 1911s and racked the slide under the familiar pretext of checking the chamber before handling the pistol. My beady little eyes just caught a glimpse of a live round disappearing under the closed slide. There I was holding a loaded pistol when my brain was still in unloaded mode. It took a few seconds to come back to reality, drop the mag and clear the action. It was one of those very familiar things. I had come back from the ranch and simply stuck the pistol back in the safe without clearing it, INTENDING of course to do that. It was a familiar thing to do and I crossed the line into "it's okay just this once" land.

    You're standing with one foot in that land justifying working on your guns while relaxing with a night cap. I understand the nightcap thing. Read a book about guns while you're nightcapping.

    This is not a diatribe on the evils of alcohol, just my personal opinionated adventure with it.

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    Strangely, I kinda like settling into cleaning guns sometimes. It's oddly meditative to me sitting in my mancave with my guns, a good cigar and my friend Johnnie Walker Red. Dont use gloves and eye protection, and get lost in the action and detailing.


    Every night I take three or four out of the vault. A patch of surplus oil down the barrel followed by a dry patch. A drop on the moving parts ( Slide rails Sides of hammer , etc) Then a spray of Ballistol on the outside and a wipe with a clean soft rag. same as my state of mind the guns stay protected and in good condition


    And dangerous work it is! Even lock the door twice. If they knew I had Johnnie Walker in here! Where I live they gonna shoot you for that!

    Have a good cigar and regards
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    I stopped drinking when my wife was pregnant with our boy. I wanted to be a good parent and set an example of how he should lead his life. BTW, he's 33yo now and I couldn't be prouder of him.

    Alcohol impairs your judgement, period.

    If you want to drink, drink. And if you want to clean your firearms, clean your firearms. Just don't do both at the same time.
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    In all my years of existence, I've learned that:

    Alcohol never effects all people the same way....In fact the same amount imbibed may effect me very differently on different days/times.

    If I want to sip a lil' wikskey, and smoke little tobacco whilst cleaning or adjusting/repairing one of my firearms, or my lawn mower, I dare anyone to tell me I can't do so.

    I'm a fully grown man, and I know my limitations.

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