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    You're a grown up. You know the dangers of mixing guns and alcohol. You know that what you are doing is not strictly speaking 100% safe or you would not have asked about it. You are a grown up and you are not in my house. None of my business what you do. It only becomes part of my business if it affects me.

    Having said that....

    Two or three years ago I had my first negligent discharge with a fire arm. It happens, but it also changed the way I do many of the things we as shooters have to do. It focused me on safety to the point of obsession. For example when cleaning the barrel of a gun I am aware of where the barrel is pointed. Even though it is completely out of the gun when I set it down on the table I do so with the muzzle pointed " down range ". Stupid of me but that is how I do it because the ND taught me to never let my guard down on safety for even a moment and safety is a habit.

    At the same time...

    M EDC is stuffed in my pants in an IWB holster. It was not cheap, but it is striker fired and has no external safety. It is chambered. Is it safe for you to do that? Possibly not, it would depend on how long you train each week and how much draw and dry fire you do. I've been carrying like this pretty much since 1993. The ND I had was NOT with my Glock. ( It was my AR-15 ) It is safe for me because I've been doing it like that for 25 years almost. I am aware of Glock leg, so I pay attention.

    Point is what you do with your drink and gun cleaning is not safe for me. But it is your habit. You are aware of the safety concerns. It is possible that this awareness sharpens your safety discipline. Being two shots into the wind, and aware of the two shots into the wind could make you pay more attention to detail.

    Just be aware that with a thing like this the point of negative returns is pretty close to where you are when you clean up and walk away.
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    I've heard that after copious amounts of Vitamin "B", that one could forget that the firing pin detente lever in the frame of Colt Mark IV/Series 80 needs to be down in its slot or recess when installing the slide back onto the frame. Otherwise, the slide will not move into position for the slide stop pin to be inserted, and the owner will repeatedly slam the slide back trying to get it into the correct position, and in doing so, the lever nose/arm will become bent and eventually - a few years later - fracture and fall off. Then, the gun won't fire. Or so I've been told, anyway. No ammo need be involved. Just the gun owner and copious amounts of Vitamin "B".

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    I'm not even going to google Vit B OD. I'm sure the pictures would scare me to death!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wag View Post
    If you have to ask, don't.

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    The fact that you decided to ask or say it out loud in the open to hear comments (that btw i'm sure you expected) should let you know that in the back of your mind you know you shouldn't. I'm a Jack Daniel's fan and when I have a glass and I'm all relaxed and smooth,(and pain free lol) sometimes it does goes through my mind to go trippin' with my guns, but even when i'm in a state that I like, something inside goes Oh hell no! and I listen to that little voice because it's the voice of horse sense, the same voice that tells me I can't fly no matter how drunk I am loll.
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    If I even got a buzz from the drink I would leave the guns alone and I don't do any involved work either. I mostly brought this up to spark a discussion on safety. 3 fingers of Scotch just helps me fall asleep, but if you are ever in my home I won't do it out of respect. As far as reloading, that's just as much a safety concern as shooting to me.

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    3 fingers is a sledge hammer to me (it all depends how long it lasts I guess)
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    At the end of a busy delivery I always had a drink. I am also very safety conscious. After having that drink I was clearing my gun at the end of the day. You know how you always pull the trigger after clearing, I did it with one in the chamber. Good thing it was aimed in a safe direction. Since then I clear it first, then have my drink. It was my only unintended discharge in over 50 years, it'll never happen again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fshfindr View Post
    At the end of a busy delivery I always had a drink. I am also very safety conscious. After having that drink I was clearing my gun at the end of the day. You know how you always pull the trigger after clearing, I did it with one in the chamber. Good thing it was aimed in a safe direction. Since then I clear it first, then have my drink. It was my only unintended discharge in over 50 years, it'll never happen again.
    I don't see how somebody can clean a firearm with one in the chamber. I have heard it before but it is beyond me how you can clean the bore with one in the chamber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elapid View Post
    I don't see how somebody can clean a firearm with one in the chamber. I have heard it before but it is beyond me how you can clean the bore with one in the chamber.
    You hardly hear about it because they cannot tell you about it.........from discharging in the wrong direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elapid View Post
    I don't see how somebody can clean a firearm with one in the chamber. I have heard it before but it is beyond me how you can clean the bore with one in the chamber.
    ....some folks will just wipe down the outside of the gun and call it clean.......and there are far more gun owners that follow that practice than those that go into detail. The next time you are in a pawn shop, take a look at the used guns.....revolvers, pistols, rifles, or shotguns.....most likely, you will see a dirty bore, chamber, breech face, etc......but the outside is wiped down to at least make it look "clean". That is how they were pawned or sold....
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