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    Meh, Its common for us folks that live in the left wing liberal democratically controlled state of NJ to get out of state concealed carry permits so when we visit the rest of normal America we can actually live like the other half does and protect ourselves.

    It was very common years ago to get a Florida CCP but not so much now as PA stopped recognizing Florida's out of state carry permits in 2013.
    Utah and Virginia have become the "go to" state for us poor New Jerseyans that just wanna be normal.

    Also, the OP is correct the local PD's do not fingerprint you for anything other than arrest. If you're applying for something that requires fingerprinting (i.e. firearms ID card,alcoholic beverage license, hazmat license) they send you to a 3rd party like the one linked in post #3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1shot1k View Post
    TOO many things smell here. Cant see reason to comment further.
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    Comon' man, give a guy a break. Live in NE but cannot get prints so hop on a plane to sunny Florida. Fills out paperwork, lady checks it out and takes the print and tells him to go home. Hops on another plane and bammo, 2 weeks after getting home, gets an email AND mail a denial because the prints were unreadable. I guess being a vet didn't help?

    What is so strange about all that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed View Post
    Meh, Its common for us folks that live in the left wing liberal democratically hi controlled state of NJ to get out of state concealed carry permits so when we visit the rest of normal America we can actually live like the other half does and protect ourselves.

    It was very common years ago to get a Florida CCP but not so much now as PA stopped recognizing Florida's out of state carry permits in 2013.
    Utah and Virginia have become the "go to" state for us poor New Jerseyans that just wanna be normal.

    Also, the OP is correct the local PD's do not fingerprint you for anything other than arrest. If you're applying for something that requires fingerprinting (i.e. firearms ID card,alcoholic beverage license, hazmat license) they send you to a 3rd party like the one linked in post #3.
    I'll take your word pardner, I dont follow recip as I dont instruct any longer. I never understood OP intentions really....keep in mind hard for me to wrap my head around some things....agencies required by law to print citizens...can charge no more $10. in law...so some do one card $10. ea, little jailers do two etc. ...before I stopped teaching...TX went ALL electronic prints...same reasons..quality of prints plus more direct data link to FBI...I didnt mention such an Electronic ID vendor cause somebody beat me...I got impression OP flew to FL to get nonresident carry?...NJ WONT accept FL non or resident carry anyway. I could not BELIEVE he flew to FL for two FBI carded set of prints. There HAS to be some security place in tri state area with LE letterhead authorizing prints....all thats needed? IF he wants to carry abroad...FL and VA non res obtainable by mail. Air trips for prints still throwing me.

    Yes, I hope NATL recip carries...but be advised, you think some state AG's stopping Trump now...wait till that law passes...NJ, CA...etc...will have it held up overnight.....non carry states will fight changes same way TX would fight if NATL 5 day cooling off wait period enacted before Hgun pick up,
    etc. I hope OP gets what he needs and you all get some relief.
    EDIT:....and give me slack also...OP said state wont do gun related prints...but they have carry application process even though almost no one passes....OP said..." I want a carry permit "...he didnt say or add I want it for when in Other States traveling!
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    Excuse my ignorance, but I just aSSumed to get a concealed carry permit in the state of Florida, you had to be a resident of Florida.....am I wrong here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yosemeti Sam View Post
    Excuse my ignorance, but I just aSSumed to get a concealed carry permit in the state of Florida, you had to be a resident of Florida.....am I wrong here?
    I " believe" you can still get nonresident license/card via mail/internet. Same as with some other states. And they are good in TX etc....one reason I quit...a TX guy can go on web...pay...no shooting...get carry permit as non res of THAT state...carry same as someone from my 10 hour +range class! We now have less quality 4 hour class to compete with such BS.
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    1shot, I'm with you. I'm not following the motivation behind obtaining a FL carry permit let alone flying down there to do something that could be done through the mail.
    As well as when you consider the only neighboring state that honors the FL non resident permits is Delaware.
    Theres not a big benefit to a NJ resident having a FL permit.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1shot1k View Post
    EDIT:....and give me slack also...OP said state wont do gun related prints...but they have carry application process even though almost no one passes....OP said..." I want a carry permit "...he didnt say or add I want it for when in Other States traveling!
    Wasnt beating up on you, sorry if you took it that way.

    Op is correct, even if he applied for a NJ concealed carry permit. The PD still would not fingerprint him, they'd send him someplace to get it done.
    Also, its kinda understood he wants an out of state permit for traveling to other states as NJ recognizes no other states permits.

    If you are visiting NJ and you're armed you need to pull over at the state line unload your weapon and place it in the trunk in a container separate from the ammo.
    NJ has zero sense of humor regarding this and doesn't tolerate ignorance of the law. Someone brings a gun into jersey and unfortunately has a run in with the law... they're going to jail.
    Google Shaneen Allen and Brian Fletcher for examples.
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    That just doesn't seem right. But, soon I expect there will be constitutional carry, which makes the whole point mute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yosemeti Sam View Post
    That just doesn't seem right. But, soon I expect there will be constitutional carry, which makes the whole point mute.
    Yes sir...kinda mute...after some states take it to SCOTUS...if they uphold...yes, mute...if not...your back to wear Trump is now with having undeniable Constitution power per immigrant stopping...? CA WONT contact ICE now when bonding out a suspect rapist/dwi killer illegal allien...but they start honoring gun toters day Trump signs a law....I'll be watchin it with you is all I can say...
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    I vote California cede from the nation, it will save the country a lot of money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yosemeti Sam View Post
    I vote California cede from the nation, it will save the country a lot of money.
    I kinda agree...if they keep buying from us. We're about only state owns our own grid. We sell LOT lectricity to them spinach pizza eaters...so they dont have to burn that nasty coal like we do, or have reactors like we do...or have budget SURPLUS...like we do...
    some good friends in CA. , and from here like Popeye....might as well be on Mars...I caint help em. And if enough of them keep migratin to Austin like they have Denver, I'll be busy tryin to help us.
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