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    I bought this a couple of weeks ago and got a good deal on it. I know it has some after market parts ie.... grip, handles, sights, and appears to have been re-blued. It has the proof marks and Chief Inspectors Marks "WB" Waldemar Broberg and on the right side it has "United States Property" can anyone tell me about it??? Thanks in Advance
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    Quote Originally Posted by cfisher View Post
    I bought this a couple of weeks ago and got a good deal on it. I know it has some after market parts ie.... grip, handles, sights, and appears to have been re-blued. It has the proof marks and Chief Inspectors Marks "WB" Waldemar Broberg and on the right side it has "United States Property" can anyone tell me about it??? Thanks in Advance

    Hi ..welcome...go over to new members area and introduce yourself..lot's of good
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    And what are you doing with my pistol..? ( I wish you lucky dog ! )


    WB - Waldemar Broberg Colt S/N 750,500 to 861,000..the Colt inspector
    for this run of pistols....

    "United States Property" Well..this stamp is found on the frame and slides of 1911s manufactured for and owned by the US armed forces. In most cases a gun with the property stamp will not have a "c" in the serial number.
    The "c" denoting commercial you see...so at one time was in a miltary
    arsenal/armorers possession or meant to be part of an order etc......?


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    What it was and what it is are two different things. It has 0 collectability value and will have none in the future. Someone spent a considerable amount of money to make this old warhorse what it is today. Shoot it and enjoy it for what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    What it was and what it is are two different things. It has 0 collectability value and will have none in the future. Someone spent a considerable amount of money to make this old warhorse what it is today. Shoot it and enjoy it for what it is.
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    But now that I am 1911 poor...I still envy him.... Looks like a good shooter...only test
    will tell..barrel bushing fit..timing...followers vs frame...etc..etc..


    Hope it is a good one for him...being a Colt frame and slide...still envious...as grandpa
    used to say..."if I had that [pistol] and he had a feather up his butt..we would both
    be tickled...!

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    I shot around 200 rounds in her and she never skipped a beat. What would you guys say the value is the way it is??

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfisher View Post
    I shot around 200 rounds in her and she never skipped a beat. What would you guys say the value is the way it is??
    I've never got good market on anything used I ever sold to a gun dealer or
    horse trader...

    Based on market demand at the time you sell or trade value...I've seen similar as
    your one picture priced from $300 to $400....but getting that when selling might be
    a little less...course I live in area between Dallas/FT.Worth and there thousands
    of sources etc...just search used Colts on line auctions for a reference base...and
    ask from there...? If it is a tight shooter with a good feed ramp and sear..I would like
    to have it...but no can do......you can get year made, search Colt 1911 serial numbers online
    for charts to match serial etc....folks like that U.S. marking....

    Good luck...
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    The serial number is 8302-- i believe its from the 1940's if i am not mistaken. I really appriciate you taking the time to reply and give me your opinion....thanks guys.

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    C Fisher, there were a half-a-barn-door's-full of U. S. Government 1911 and 1911A1 pistols 'surplused' out of use after the Second World War. Many of those were rebuilt into 'target' pistols for competition in 'service pistol' matches. With the half rib rear sight, I'd say that's what happened to this example. The extended slide stop and safety lock and magazine release indicates it was further modified as a 'combat' gun at some point. The mother of pearl with Cold insignia grips are fairly expensive, but slippery in the hand when even slightly moist.

    Has the slide and barrel been extended? Or is that just a perspective problem with the photo (or my eyes)?

    As a 'collector' pistol - one in original shape and without spot or blemish - this one is pretty well trashed.

    However! Depending on how it shoots, it has value. I've a couple of 'hardball' target pistols and the cheapest one was $450 and that was probably fifteen years ago.

    The serial number 8302 would indicate first year manufacture of a 1911 model Colt. However, that frame has the trigger well cut outs, meaning it is not a 1911 frame. I suggest you take a couple pictures of the right side of the pistol, showing the serial number and any manufacturer's markings as well. Along with any acceptance stamps, proof marks, identification marks or graffiti.

    My initial thoughts are to replace those grips with a set of checkered wood grips, replace those bright metal parts with regular blued steel parts of more convenient size and use it as a shooter. Defense guns do not get much better.
    I'm not really a professional gunfighter, but I used to play one in reality.

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